Green campaigners to fight £40m rail centre scheme (Read 1,697 times)

[mattw]

as said above by CJM, i think this is getting slightly OTT now, afterall it is a transport forum.

Galaxy - couldnt agree more with your points - what do people want these days?

[ladybird]

I don't see it as wasting my time. All we want is the area in which we bought our homes to stay as they are - is that really out of order.

[stephenr]

And that is the crux of the argument isn't it.

"As a property owner in the area I will do whatever I can to make sure that this building does not get planning permission and upset the environment around my house."

A very selfish attitude. Any fuel, chemicals and waste products and especially emissions now are so heavy controlled there is no chance of leakages. They will not harm you or your kids.

As for the line will only be used by a few passenger trains that is rubbish. Common sense should tell you with such infrastructure such as roads and rails this can and does change. Can I object to your and others car fumes/levels in my area then as I did not expect traffic levels to grow.....I can hear the laughter now.

If the building was such a polluter of noise, dirt, fumes, chemicals it will not make it past the planning process.

The fact is you will most likely succeed in getting Network Rial to make design changes to accomodate some of your views but as it is a strategically important UK infrasture you are in affect fighting a Government Agency which will not lose such an important building for the whole rail network.

It will be built in the end with or without resident led design changes.

[tango]

I live at the side of an old chemical factory (Which as now been demolished and replaced by a new housing estate) on one side we have the river and canal, and sourounded both sides by two railway lines, one which is used every 5 minutes, even at 4am and my garden backs onto the railway, and the old factory, and the other at the end of our road is used for freight only, and i would not move for the world, it's a nice quiet area, and would rather have the railway and the old cehmical factory, than a major A road or even worst a Motorway close by.

I am sorry but these things have to be placed somewhere, and it is just unfortunate that this is in your back yard!, i too have 3 young children, and can see where people are coming from on this, but at least the majority of the area will be over the viaduct (which last time i checked blocks the view across the valley from beighton, although parts of aston would have a view of this new site.

Also i thought this land was in rotherham not sheffield?

[tango]

mattw said:

as said above by CJM, i think this is getting slightly OTT now, afterall it is a transport forum.

Galaxy - couldnt agree more with your points - what do people want these days?

And your point is? last time i checked railways were transport related

It's good to have some posts by the general public on here, we have to remeber they see things like this very different to how we see things (well most of us) like these projects.

[donnytom]

On the rail network, what does this replace? Is it several similar sites but on a smaller scale?

If this is the national depot, will some vehicles be stored nearer the 'edges' of the country, or will vehicles going to maintain track down in (say) the south-west have to go all the way from Sheffield? Perhaps I've missed something out, but won't that be a lot of dead mileage for the vehicles? Like I say, I don't know what it will replace so hopefully I'm wrong.

A risk with having just one site is that if it's somehow incapacitated or cut-off, that this may disrupt the supply of maintenance vehicles. Unlikely to hapen though.

I don't know the area so it wouldn't be fair to comment on the actual postioning of the place. But I agree with Galaxy and StephenR: it would require an extremely convincing argument to stop this place from being built.

[r2ro]

Just a general question first of all - do we really need this works building? Is it going to be that much of a benefit to the transport network? I personally don't think it is.

Other people have said that they live next to steel works, chemical works, train tracks etc. Am I right in thinking that they are all built before you purchased/moved into your house? The point here is that you chose to live there knowing full well what was in the area. The local residents moved into their houses well before any plans like this were mentioned and I don't blame them at all for fighting against this.

Considering the size of the site and the green space that's going to be lost, I really don't think it's worth it. Perhaps someone else may be able to explain why everyone would lose out if this site wasn't built.

[iane]

ther is no green space lost because it was already railway land not fields.albeit it does look like one at times.

[asourdirective]

iane said:

ther is no green space lost because it was already railway land not fields.albeit it does look like one at times.

Exactly - if you pass Woodhouse Junction on the Kiverton line trains - you will see lots of rusty old rails and sleepers from the former sidings which were there. All the current "green" plants are just scrub, grass and weeds!

I believe that the centre is for the maintenance of vehicles such as tampers and other engineering equipment which are responsible for track renewal, maintenance and track analysis. I.e. the very backbone of the rail system. If you can't maintain the tracks, you can't run anything on them.

I see that all the locals complain about the pollution effect of such a works. I don't see them complaining about the A57 road which carries thousands of vehicles a day. Surely, the number of people (each with one person in each car no doubt) using that road contributes a greater carbon footprint in real terms than this proposed centre will ever do.

I hope that the planners see the proposal from this point of view and allow the project to proceed. Whilst this will have a knock-on effect to those residents which live in close proximity to the centre, I think that is far out-weighed by the benefits it will bring.

[debbiepiper]

If the site is passed lots of green space will be lost, at the moment there is a train track and a disused rail way building of 1000 square feet. What is being proposed is 1 million square foot maintenance center standing over 60 ft high ,some people will be living 150 yards from the build ,they will be lucky if they see sunlight before midday.

As for jobs go on the web sites and do research if you want to comment, initial jobs are internal redeployment from other area's, yes they will be a small amount off jobs phased in over the years as trainer positions, but not instantly.

People live her because they want the green open space, many of you comment about living next door to steel works. They where there before you. YOU chose to live there. We didn't.

[ladybird]

This green land does not all belong to Network Rail, some of it belongs to National Trust!

I am sorry but I cannot see the benefit of building this Engineering Center in the middle a beautiful piece of green land with houses all around it. There are plenty of other areas that would be better suited like the site that Network Rail owned at Tinsley (which did the same sort of thing), but have only just recently sold.

Just because we chose to buy houses next to train lines does not mean we expect to live next to an engineering plant years down the line.