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donnyboy Driver Posts: 460	November Service Changes Oct 19, 2018 10:28:03 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by donnyboy on Oct 19, 2018 10:28:03 GMT Oct 18, 2018 20:26:07 GMT donc said: PB0002307/382 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Amazon (iport) to Doncaster Service number: AM1 Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/370 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Cantle to Edenthorpe Service number: 481 (482) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/345 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: DONCASTER INTERCHANGE to MOORENDS Service number: 8 (488, 8A) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/344 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: DONCASTER INTERCHANGE to BARNBY DUN Service number: 84 (84A, 84B) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/54 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Doncaster, South Bus Station to Moorends, Winning Post Hotel Service number: 87 (87A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/41 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Doncaster Frenchgate Interchange to Intake, Shaftesburt Ave/ Montrose Ave Service number: 65 (66, 66A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/39 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Doncaster Frenchgate Interchange to Armthorpe via Doncaster Royal Infirmary Service number: 81 (82) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 I assume these are all in line with the change in route now Hall Gate has been closed.

donc Inspector Posts: 591	November Service Changes Oct 19, 2018 19:32:08 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by donc on Oct 19, 2018 19:32:08 GMT Oct 19, 2018 10:28:03 GMT donnyboy said: Oct 18, 2018 20:26:07 GMT donc said: PB0002307/382 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Amazon (iport) to Doncaster Service number: AM1 Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/370 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Cantle to Edenthorpe Service number: 481 (482) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/345 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: DONCASTER INTERCHANGE to MOORENDS Service number: 8 (488, 8A) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/344 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: DONCASTER INTERCHANGE to BARNBY DUN Service number: 84 (84A, 84B) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/54 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Doncaster, South Bus Station to Moorends, Winning Post Hotel Service number: 87 (87A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/41 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Doncaster Frenchgate Interchange to Intake, Shaftesburt Ave/ Montrose Ave Service number: 65 (66, 66A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 PB0002307/39 Registered (Short notice) FIRST SOUTH YORKSHIRE LIMITED Route: Doncaster Frenchgate Interchange to Armthorpe via Doncaster Royal Infirmary Service number: 81 (82) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 05 Nov 2018 I assume these are all in line with the change in route now Hall Gate has been closed. The reliability at the moment is horrendous so I hope these are to address this,
	Last Edit: Oct 19, 2018 19:33:07 GMT by donc

donc Inspector Posts: 591	November Service Changes Oct 21, 2018 9:09:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by donc on Oct 21, 2018 9:09:38 GMT Does anyone know what changes will be made to the above services nothing on First or Travel SY yet.

simonk82701 Driver Posts: 338	November Service Changes Oct 21, 2018 9:32:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by simonk82701 on Oct 21, 2018 9:32:38 GMT Oct 21, 2018 9:09:38 GMT donc said: Does anyone know what changes will be made to the above services nothing on First or Travel SY yet. Nothing new there sadly. I am frequently frustrated by the total lack of notice the passenger gets of any changes. After all they are the end user and pay for this nonsense. The traffic commissioner needs to ensure that PASSENGERS get 28 days minimum notice of any changes. Sadly at the minute this is outside the traffic commissioner's remit. I know because I emailed them on this subject and was told they were only there to enforce timings as they are registered. They have no power to enforce minimum notice periods for passengers. In my view things need to change. No timetable should be allowed to change except for roadworks etc, without one months to the end user. That's may view anyway! for what its worth.
	Last Edit: Oct 27, 2018 21:41:03 GMT by simonk82701

431 Driver Posts: 186	November Service Changes Oct 26, 2018 15:27:34 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 431 on Oct 26, 2018 15:27:34 GMT Oct 21, 2018 9:32:38 GMT simonk82701 said: Oct 21, 2018 9:09:38 GMT donc said: Does anyone know what changes will be made to the above services nothing on First or Travel SY yet. Nothing new there sadly. I am frequently frustrated by the total lack of notice the passenger gets of any changes. After all they are the end user and pay for this nonsense. The traffic commissioner needs to ensure that PASSENGERS get 28 days minimum notice of any changes. Sadly at the minute this is outside the traffic commissioner's remit. I know because I emailed them on this subject and was told they were only there to enforce timings as they are registered. They have no power to enforce minimum notice periods for passengers. In my view things need to change. No timetable should be allowed to change except for roadworks etc, without one months to the end user. That's may view anyway! for what its wort. I agree with you there should be at least a minimum of a month..... The SYPTE / Bus operators are getting way with this for far to long & its about time it stopped...... its also about time that we stopped having alterations every other month asd well......

dvd Driver Posts: 1	November Service Changes Oct 26, 2018 18:57:40 GMT via mobile mojoe44 likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dvd on Oct 26, 2018 18:57:40 GMT Oct 26, 2018 15:27:34 GMT 431 said: Oct 21, 2018 9:32:38 GMT simonk82701 said: Nothing new there sadly. I am frequently frustrated by the total lack of notice the passenger gets of any changes. After all they are the end user and pay for this nonsense. The traffic commissioner needs to ensure that PASSENGERS get 28 days minimum notice of any changes. Sadly at the minute this is outside the traffic commissioner's remit. I know because I emailed them on this subject and was told they were only there to enforce timings as they are registered. They have no power to enforce minimum notice periods for passengers. In my view things need to change. No timetable should be allowed to change except for roadworks etc, without one months to the end user. That's may view anyway! for what its wort. I agree with you there should be at least a minimum of a month..... The SYPTE / Bus operators are getting way with this for far to long & its about time it stopped...... its also about time that we stopped having alterations every other month asd well...... There has been no customer communication because nothing in reality is changing. All changes are simply registering the routes within the Town Centre due to the closure of Hallgate. Since it closed in September First have been operating on a diversion. Just because it is now registered with the Traffic Commissioner means there are changes that affect the public.

simonk82701 Driver Posts: 338	November Service Changes Oct 27, 2018 21:33:57 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by simonk82701 on Oct 27, 2018 21:33:57 GMT Oct 26, 2018 18:57:40 GMT dvd said: Oct 26, 2018 15:27:34 GMT 431 said: There has been no customer communication because nothing in reality is changing. All changes are simply registering the routes within the Town Centre due to the closure of Hallgate. Since it closed in September First have been operating on a diversion. Just because it is now registered with the Traffic Commissioner means there are changes that affect the public. I understand what you're saying with the latest changes up to a point, however the new tram timetables even though there were only minor changes only came out 5 days before they changed. I have also known many times where a major timetable change, e.g. the final service in an evening being withdrawn with between 7 and 14 days notice. People have to plan their lives and more importantly their jobs around buses and may have to give one months notice to changes a shift etc. Not 7 days or less. The traffic commissioner requires 56 days notice of any change under normal circumstances, therefore I think it's reasonable to expect that the passenger gets 28 days notice of any changes no matter how small. I also have concerns about the number of changes per annum in SY. People just get use to one pattern of service, and then within three months the whole thing changes again. I remember being on a service where some teachers were trying to get some young blind students use to using buses, they didn't know till I told them that within a few weeks the service was due to be withdrawn and the route and number of the route was to change completely. Therefore they had to start again from scratch to get these kids use to where they were going. The other thing is that in my view, service changes happen too regularly, every six months under normal circumstances should be ample, this would give people enough time to get used to a service and to make sure it worked
	Last Edit: Oct 27, 2018 21:44:33 GMT by simonk82701

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