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Post by lapike on Feb 23, 2007 20:28:27 GMT
well as stated above side displays would be useful in new frenchgate cause sometimes hard to see if bus pulls up right behind another 1, but as for back displays... to be honest, never seen point of them.
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Post by Tom B on Feb 23, 2007 20:42:00 GMT
The other thing is that the public seem to have become much less trusting of information systems - whatever may be displayed on the bus or on the interchange board, it is questioned. This is reasonable, however, given how operators / PTE often fail to present correct reliable information.
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Post by manontheinside on Feb 24, 2007 9:15:01 GMT
Interesting point regarding Frenchgate, i see what you are saying. However, realistically, i think the only positive i can throw at yoyu is that the B7TLs on Edlington and the B9TLs on their way will feature all of the above requested.
Retro-fitting to SPUDs & B6LEs and the like is unlikely, although not impossible. However, the problem will be significantly better by the time we can review this item in 12 months.
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Post by 22438 on Feb 24, 2007 14:54:50 GMT
well as stated above side displays would be useful in new frenchgate cause sometimes hard to see if bus pulls up right behind another 1, but as for back displays... to be honest, never seen point of them. In my opinion, back displays can be useful. Say you are walking up to a bus stop from behind and there is a bus in it. If there is no back display, you could dash all the way up to the bus and realise it's the wrong one. With a back display you can always tell. Regarding L207 SHW, it was on the 30 today along with a B6 (  ). |
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Post by maltabus on Feb 24, 2007 15:04:49 GMT
The ex A1 Darts now have there side displays in use - rte number & destination
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Post by lapike on Feb 25, 2007 14:27:54 GMT
yea but sometimes esp with the x78 b10m's, there back displays allways state x78 even then they are on other routes.
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Post by Tom B on Feb 25, 2007 15:05:51 GMT
I think they're just fixed cards - otherwise nobody would ever set them to anything!
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Post by Tom B on Feb 25, 2007 15:09:05 GMT
Interesting point regarding Frenchgate, i see what you are saying. However, realistically, i think the only positive i can throw at yoyu is that the B7TLs on Edlington and the B9TLs on their way will feature all of the above requested. Retro-fitting to SPUDs & B6LEs and the like is unlikely, although not impossible. However, the problem will be significantly better by the time we can review this item in 12 months. Why not though? I mean, if they have a limited life expectancy now then that can be understood, but when the conversion was done why not put them in? Or was it a case of 'doing it on the cheap'. Likewise, when the KLFs were converted to those LED screens, nobody converted the side or back ones. Indeed, and it is helpful when you see a B7TL/Solo which have the side screens. |
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Post by donnytom on Feb 25, 2007 18:51:50 GMT
Its very simple, they originally had the electronically set rollers which were unreliable. When they failed they were removed and not replaced. Although it may seem a super idea to put an LED blind in the rear or/and side but its not required. I won't go into the issue of DDA certificates, but this has a bearing on the discussion. Harrogate and District (and possibly other Blazefield firms) were very keen on additional displays- I've seen their B7/Eclipses with displays on the front and back, but also both sides! They also provide a special message when the bus is reversing... about as far from Mass/Powell as it's possible to get... |
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Post by lapike on Mar 1, 2007 14:36:26 GMT
i wonder what the special message could be when its reversing? "i'm reversing"
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Post by jswallow on Mar 1, 2007 14:49:10 GMT
I know this has totally drifted from the original topic, but I find it interesting how different parts of the First empire are embracing the LED displays (and it's not criticism, just an observation). First Glasgow are fitting them front, side and rear to vehicles, including B10Ms and I'm sure I've read that they've been fitted to vehicles that never had anything there before (i.e. so not just a replacement of an old flipdot). None of the other areas have done this as far as I can see. Are First Glasgow more flush with the money I wonder?  And, even though the honorable MOTI didn't want to get involved in the DDA debate, I'm interested in that too. ... The B7TLs and B7Ls are of an age where they must have front, side and rear displays, I'm surprised that so many of them are running out totally blanked out (and even blanked over). |
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Post by donnytom on Mar 1, 2007 19:47:29 GMT
i wonder what the special message could be when its reversing? "i'm reversing" Near enough...! |
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Post by manontheinside on Mar 4, 2007 18:38:05 GMT
I know this has totally drifted from the original topic, but I find it interesting how different parts of the First empire are embracing the LED displays (and it's not criticism, just an observation). First Glasgow are fitting them front, side and rear to vehicles, including B10Ms and I'm sure I've read that they've been fitted to vehicles that never had anything there before (i.e. so not just a replacement of an old flipdot). None of the other areas have done this as far as I can see. Are First Glasgow more flush with the money I wonder? And, even though the honorable MOTI didn't want to get involved in the DDA debate, I'm interested in that too. ... The B7TLs and B7Ls are of an age where they must have front, side and rear displays, I'm surprised that so many of them are running out totally blanked out (and even blanked over). Honourable? Thats a first for me! I just don't feel the DDA debate, warts an' all is really a forum topic. You are of course quite right about the B7 family and needless to say something will have to be (and will) done. |
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