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Post by andyrad on Nov 19, 2010 19:51:57 GMT
The back end is let down a bit where the two halves of the casting join because it causes a big sticky out section which just dosnt look right. plus I know what you are saying about the painted on lights!
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Post by captainsharpe1 on Nov 19, 2010 20:02:16 GMT
The Mk1 facelift is in actual fact the B-series specification where Leyland took out the roof mounted heating system and put normal box type heaters under the seats and a demister rad (hence the louvres) after pressure from NBC for a simpler bus to maintain. It applied mainly to the short wheelbase Mk1 and also to most Mk2s and the Mk2 prototype which had Mk1 styling. The remodelled Mk1s were the phase 2s which took onboard weight redistribution and modifications trialled by NBC company Northern General-these were the shorter pod and batterys moved to the o/s front from under the seats. Thses generally entered service from N-reg onwards. However a number of companys took phase 2s with phase 1 pods such as YTCs NWG-R/OWF-Rs.
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Post by captainsharpe1 on Nov 19, 2010 20:04:13 GMT
IIRC the KWA-Ws had the number plate on the n/s of the engine door and no destination blinds at the rear. They did not have the lense for reversing in the window either (what would health & safety say about using that these days!).I often wondered about these as I trundled round Stocksbridge on Tracky's Nationals as a young 'un, was that lens at all effective? On a Mk1 covered in engine oil.... |
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Post by andyrad on Nov 19, 2010 20:10:40 GMT
The Mk1 facelift is in actual fact the B-series specification where Leyland took out the roof mounted heating system and put normal box type heaters under the seats and a demister rad (hence the louvres) after pressure from NBC for a simpler bus to maintain. It applied mainly to the short wheelbase Mk1 and also to most Mk2s and the Mk2 prototype which had Mk1 styling. The remodelled Mk1s were the phase 2s which took onboard weight redistribution and modifications trialled by NBC company Northern General-these were the shorter pod and batterys moved to the o/s front from under the seats. Thses generally entered service from N-reg onwards. However a number of companys took phase 2s with phase 1 pods such as YTCs NWG-R/OWF-Rs. Blimey CS1!! couldnt you be a little more specific! ;D |
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Post by captainsharpe1 on Nov 19, 2010 20:13:29 GMT
The Mk1 facelift is in actual fact the B-series specification where Leyland took out the roof mounted heating system and put normal box type heaters under the seats and a demister rad (hence the louvres) after pressure from NBC for a simpler bus to maintain. It applied mainly to the short wheelbase Mk1 and also to most Mk2s and the Mk2 prototype which had Mk1 styling. The remodelled Mk1s were the phase 2s which took onboard weight redistribution and modifications trialled by NBC company Northern General-these were the shorter pod and batterys moved to the o/s front from under the seats. Thses generally entered service from N-reg onwards. However a number of companys took phase 2s with phase 1 pods such as YTCs NWG-R/OWF-Rs. Blimey CS1!! couldnt you be a little more specific! ;D Well if you are going to model Nationals you need to get the details right, they didnt all come in one shape and colour as many think. |
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Post by andyrad on Nov 19, 2010 20:21:13 GMT
Blimey CS1!! couldnt you be a little more specific! ;D Well if you are going to model Nationals you need to get the details right, they didnt all come in one shape and colour as many think. yeah EFE seem to think there was just long and short ones with one or two doors. and never mind all the small details like pod length and vents etc etc... thats where transit comes in! ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2010 22:23:04 GMT
Well if you are going to model Nationals you need to get the details right, they didnt all come in one shape and colour as many think. yeah EFE seem to think there was just long and short ones with one or two doors. and never mind all the small details like pod length and vents etc etc... thats where transit come in! ;D To be fair EFE models are not that bad. I prefer Corgi Original Omnibus personally although I can't tell the difference with the Nationals. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2010 22:47:01 GMT
Some of the EFE models are a bit wrong with Volvo B6 M626 VHE on Dart Pointer bodywork & chassis & their versions of Barbie 2 (fade out livery).
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Post by transit on Nov 21, 2010 18:07:21 GMT
...good find Andy ! - this is after it had recieved another repaint (4 yearly makeover) and lost the roof lettering ect , and blended back into standard livery with the rest of the batch . It has also recieved the darker shade of brown and the newer style fleetnames , and also gained the red on the centre doors which indicated wheelchair access (note the orange board ) - i would date it around 81-82 ? |
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Post by alexander on Jan 18, 2011 22:24:52 GMT
Andy the City Clipper didn"t go to Lower Walkley .
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Post by andyrad on Jan 19, 2011 10:48:57 GMT
Andy the City Clipper didn"t go to Lower Walkley . Mine does! ;D maybe they forget to take the boards out on a changover?  |
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