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Post by alexander on Apr 13, 2011 19:50:24 GMT
I have heard that it will operate non stop to Meadowhall South
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Post by swfcforever on Apr 14, 2011 20:26:13 GMT
ive heard the same, its going to be confusing for people
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Post by 53brown on Apr 30, 2011 16:34:19 GMT
I have heard that it will operate non stop to Meadowhall South Surprised at that, would have thought Arena / Don Valley Stadium and Valley Centertainment would have also being included to open up new direct links. But at least that way it would avoid the problem with the ticketing as I mentioned previously, even if only serving Tinsley / Meadowhall South. However with the route in question, this will probably be served with a complete new platform alongside the canal towpath, rather than using the existing Supertram stop. |
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Post by alexander on Apr 30, 2011 16:58:12 GMT
If it runs non stop it would soon catch up the tram in front so I doubt that it will .
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Post by barrycygnetbus on Apr 30, 2011 18:54:16 GMT
I had actually forgotten about this story as it seem to have just disappeared of the radar. Which is not really a surprise, how many of these type of announcement just disappear without actually starting. I just wonder if this will be another one of them.
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Post by scottywotty on May 4, 2011 13:46:50 GMT
I have heard that it will operate non stop to Meadowhall South Surprised at that, would have thought Arena / Don Valley Stadium and Valley Centertainment would have also being included to open up new direct links. But at least that way it would avoid the problem with the ticketing as I mentioned previously, even if only serving Tinsley / Meadowhall South. However with the route in question, this will probably be served with a complete new platform alongside the canal towpath, rather than using the existing Supertram stop. Could it not be doing that for the simple reason of the conflicting platform heights, therefore saving on costs of upgrading platforms at both the rail and supertram stations to accomodate the tram-train vehicles? |
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Post by swfcforever on May 4, 2011 22:02:58 GMT
ah but what about the platform heights in the city centre? I think the non-stop is a marketing tool
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Post by thrybergh on May 5, 2011 23:59:44 GMT
ah but what about the platform heights in the city centre? I think the non-stop is a marketing tool Or perhaps the fact that they only have 5 vehicles for the route between Cathedral and Parkgate Shopping and have to meet a service requirement of every 20 minutes?  |
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Post by trent on May 7, 2011 23:46:38 GMT
I have heard that it will operate non stop to Meadowhall South Surprised at that, would have thought Arena / Don Valley Stadium and Valley Centertainment would have also being included to open up new direct links. But at least that way it would avoid the problem with the ticketing as I mentioned previously, even if only serving Tinsley / Meadowhall South. However with the route in question, this will probably be served with a complete new platform alongside the canal towpath, rather than using the existing Supertram stop. Still the 3 stops in the city centre, that is if it will be running into the city centre and not just to Sheffield Station cross-over on the Supertram lines. |
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Post by atlantean on May 8, 2011 8:31:34 GMT
Something I have been puzzling over is if the tram-trains are only running to the city centre then the test will only feature segregated running. I would have thought that in order to fully test the viability of the tram-train concept it would also need to feature on-street running.
It is already well proven that trams/LRVs can run on heavy rail alignments and switch to on-street running. The fundamental principle behind the tram-train trial as I understand it is to assess the practicality of shared access with heavy rail, how this can be successfully achieved on a rarely used freight only line remains to be seen.
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Post by lysander on May 8, 2011 18:41:10 GMT
Signalling and working practices will differ....so a quiet, underused line....once built to main line standards would seem eminently suitable... also the small political act of joining another urban area within SY with a tram will be achieved.
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Post by 53brown on May 15, 2011 19:19:01 GMT
Surprised at that, would have thought Arena / Don Valley Stadium and Valley Centertainment would have also being included to open up new direct links. But at least that way it would avoid the problem with the ticketing as I mentioned previously, even if only serving Tinsley / Meadowhall South. However with the route in question, this will probably be served with a complete new platform alongside the canal towpath, rather than using the existing Supertram stop. Could it not be doing that for the simple reason of the conflicting platform heights, therefore saving on costs of upgrading platforms at both the rail and supertram stations to accomodate the tram-train vehicles? Still the 3 stops in town though. |
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Post by welshdragon on May 16, 2011 17:10:38 GMT
Stupid idea but to solve the issue of platform heights might they be using a pneumatic system to raise/lower the bogies to the correct height?
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Post by alemaster on May 16, 2011 18:32:09 GMT
Something I have been puzzling over is if the tram-trains are only running to the city centre then the test will only feature segregated running. I would have thought that in order to fully test the viability of the tram-train concept it would also need to feature on-street running. It is already well proven that trams/LRVs can run on heavy rail alignments and switch to on-street running. The fundamental principle behind the tram-train trial as I understand it is to assess the practicality of shared access with heavy rail, how this can be successfully achieved on a rarely used freight only line remains to be seen. Bit through Rotherham Central is used a bit more regularly.... |
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Post by ateam on May 16, 2011 18:57:36 GMT
Stupid idea but to solve the issue of platform heights might they be using a pneumatic system to raise/lower the bogies to the correct height? Question is, how do they acheive this on the continent - arent there systems similar to this already established there? The "kneeling" suspension idea sounds like a possible winner though. |
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