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Post by unhappybunny on Jul 5, 2006 20:08:30 GMT
Does anyone know if Northern rail are planning to invest in new rolling stock within the next 100 years? The trains they currently use are usually so old and rubbish. If they got one person operated stock like most companies in the country they wouldn't have to have RCIs on board to open doors etc, saving money at quiet times and resulting in less cancellations and delays.
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Post by Luke on Jul 5, 2006 20:45:58 GMT
im sorry but no.
They are fefurbing the class 155s and 321/9s and are waiting for the ex tpx class 158s to come and they will aslo be going in for a fefurb
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Post by unhappybunny on Jul 5, 2006 21:02:25 GMT
What about those bus-like ones, think there 142 class and 144. They are surley so out dated they are good for only the skip! I hear they have some trains the same as heathrow express trains, but have never seen them!
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Post by Luke on Jul 5, 2006 21:26:06 GMT
They do but they only operate in West Yorkshire
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Post by donnytom on Jul 6, 2006 13:53:40 GMT
What's wrong with the 14x series? Well, quite a lot I suppose, but they do the job.
The refurb of the 321/9s- is this why 321423 (?) in Silverlink County livery has been operating Doncaster-Leeds lately?
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Post by manclad on Jul 6, 2006 14:12:10 GMT
The 142's, 143's and 144's on the whole arn't that old. They were built around 1988 which especially is not old compared to the class 101's which were designed and built in the 1950's and continued right up to 2003 operating suburban routes in Manchester.
We have a lot to thank the pacers for. They are or atleast, were, cheap to run and build and probably helped save lines such as the Penistone line from being axed.
They have been made more comfortable in recent years by having the bus seats taken out and generally refurbed. When i travelled by train out of Barnsley i always preferred the 156 sprinters but i'll be sad to see the pacers go when they do.
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Post by unhappybunny on Jul 6, 2006 15:20:34 GMT
Does anyone know what the average train driver gets in the way of wages for a company like northern rail? Just wanna compage the differance, thanx.
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Post by donnytom on Jul 6, 2006 16:16:20 GMT
The 142's, 143's and 144's on the whole arn't that old. They were built around 1988 which especially is not old compared to the class 101's which were designed and built in the 1950's and continued right up to 2003 operating suburban routes in Manchester. We have a lot to thank the pacers for. They are or atleast, were, cheap to run and build and probably helped save lines such as the Penistone line from being axed. They have been made more comfortable in recent years by having the bus seats taken out and generally refurbed. When i travelled by train out of Barnsley i always preferred the 156 sprinters but i'll be sad to see the pacers go when they do. The Pacers aren't bad units- not brilliant, but could be worse. Better than the 141s were supposed to be, anyway, and a lot better than a closed line. |
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Post by Luke on Jul 9, 2006 14:19:24 GMT
Well i prefer the 158s and 156s they are excellent.
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Post by rbrt on Jul 13, 2006 21:20:48 GMT
sorry whats an RCI.
btw saw something in Worst, oops first livery south of Sheffield yesterday afternoon, looked like a new unit, 2 windows to cab front no connecting doors???
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Post by unhappybunny on Jul 14, 2006 6:12:25 GMT
Revenue control inspector
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Post by don on Jul 16, 2006 17:10:13 GMT
Yep, the pacers are brilliant.
The 141's might be plowing their trade in Iran but when i was still spotting on at the end of platform 4/8 a decade and a bit ago they were something to look at all stored in the BREL? now Wabtec? bit rusty locally but still read Railway Mag and Rail.
Plus the pacers on the doncaster to sheff route bring back memories.
The one thing to be said about pacers is they have personality.
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Post by humberside on Jul 16, 2006 19:25:33 GMT
There are still some 141's in the UK on heritage lines
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