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Post by coatliner on Jul 20, 2013 19:35:59 GMT
40501/2 should be coming off fleet shortly and we are to get 3 Single decks to replace them 2 and 61205 not sure where the single's are coming from Plan was to replace these and the Euro-2 B7TLs at Doncaster. As you say what with?. I know there is still a plan to replace all the 322** buses with Singles probably from Manchester and was told the other day that the 308** and 309** buses are staying. |
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Post by jakerton43 on Jul 20, 2013 19:49:11 GMT
Plan was to replace these and the Euro-2 B7TLs at Doncaster. As you say what with?. I know there is still a plan to replace all the 322** buses with Singles probably from Manchester and was told the other day that the 308** and 309** buses are staying. The LT52's are generally decent vehicles, the only problem is the capacity. 19 seats downstairs and 17 seats with the extra luggage rack (which doesn't get used). Hence the reason why B7L's are now allocated to 57. |
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Post by busman53 on Jul 21, 2013 14:28:30 GMT
It is reported 60721/722/724/725/726/727/728/729/730/742 are to transfer to Rotherham tomorrow daytime. It is also reported all 4 Streetlite prototypes 47401-47404 will also move to Rotherham with Olive Grove getting 37 production models after all. So have the B7Ls moved across to Rotherham? Is it also know when 47402 is due to go to Rotherham, if it hasn't already? Does this mean the ALX400s and B7RLEs which were suppose to go to Rotherham still are or are they not? I'm also guessing Rotherham has some summer reductions - Is anything departing Rotherham after having other movements there? |
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Post by optioorange on Jul 21, 2013 18:04:47 GMT
47402 on 76 today
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Post by The Captain on Jul 21, 2013 18:52:57 GMT
47401 arrived at OG today.
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Post by tofskilemons on Jul 21, 2013 18:59:39 GMT
Is this me being logical but would B7l's from either RO or OG just a straight swap with the 322XX B7TL's at DO sort a number of problems? Doncaster would have a more uniform fleet and if swapped with Rotherham, they would have more much needed capacity and Euro 3 spec vehicles.
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Post by The Captain on Jul 21, 2013 19:01:03 GMT
Is this me being logical but would B7l's from either RO or OG just a straight swap with the 322XX B7TL's at DO sort a number of problems? Doncaster would have a more uniform fleet and if swapped with Rotherham, they would have more much needed capacity and Euro 3 spec vehicles. What would OG use them on?? |
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Post by tofskilemons on Jul 21, 2013 19:12:47 GMT
Is this me being logical but would B7l's from either RO or OG just a straight swap with the 322XX B7TL's at DO sort a number of problems? Doncaster would have a more uniform fleet and if swapped with Rotherham, they would have more much needed capacity and Euro 3 spec vehicles. What would OG use them on?? 17/35/36 as ALX's have been on there recently? More of a reason for a swap with RO rather than OG then... They would be better utilised in Rotherham. |
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Post by The Captain on Jul 21, 2013 19:14:07 GMT
What would OG use them on?? 17/35/36 as ALX's have been on there recently? More of a reason for a swap with RO rather than OG then... They would be better utilised in Rotherham. Lets just forget about the extra 5 inches up top.  |
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Post by tofskilemons on Jul 21, 2013 19:17:34 GMT
17/35/36 as ALX's have been on there recently? More of a reason for a swap with RO rather than OG then... They would be better utilised in Rotherham. Lets just forget about the extra 5 inches up top. Ahh... TFL spec of course. The bridge will sort out the height issue by removing those 5 inches.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 19:22:25 GMT
some B7L routes in Donny already need more capacity, passengers on 57 won't go upstairs but 66 needs more space and more seats, more B7Ls is not the answer
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Post by coatliner on Jul 21, 2013 19:28:41 GMT
some B7L routes in Donny already need more capacity, passengers on 57 won't go upstairs but 66 needs more space and more seats, more B7Ls is not the answer 57 route is now S/D, they are looking at making the Armthorpe service S/D hence why we need to get rid of the 322** as a few boards interwork with 83/84/85 and cant operate under Clay Lane bridge |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 19:51:06 GMT
some B7L routes in Donny already need more capacity, passengers on 57 won't go upstairs but 66 needs more space and more seats, more B7Ls is not the answer 57 route is now S/D, they are looking at making the Armthorpe service S/D hence why we need to get rid of the 322** as a few boards interwork with 83/84/85 and cant operate under Clay Lane bridge Why not run the 81/82 with the YN53 plate ALX 400's/31148, these have more capacity over the LT52's downstairs, plus are 5 inches shorter. The LT52's could go on the 15 which does not have the height issues, the 54 Scawthorpe, all boards on the 88/91 if these are still interworking. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 19:52:22 GMT
Is this me being logical but would B7l's from either RO or OG just a straight swap with the 322XX B7TL's at DO sort a number of problems? Doncaster would have a more uniform fleet and if swapped with Rotherham, they would have more much needed capacity and Euro 3 spec vehicles. What would OG use them on?? 81/82/85 would be one as the height is not a problem as Tridents run these regularly. Also the 95 Walkley would be a candidate, the B10BLE's seem to be rather full at times. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 19:53:25 GMT
some B7L routes in Donny already need more capacity, passengers on 57 won't go upstairs but 66 needs more space and more seats, more B7Ls is not the answer 57 route is now S/D, they are looking at making the Armthorpe service S/D hence why we need to get rid of the 322** as a few boards interwork with 83/84/85 and cant operate under Clay Lane bridge Maybe First should concentrate on getting the Armthorpe service to run on time before worrying what type of bus is running on it and not sent out letters claiming it runs in twos and threes because of the loading of passengers, Armthorpe is stretched as it is whether it has single or DD's on it isn't going to solve the underlying problem that it cannot get around in 70 minutes unless it's very quiet and the roads are clear. Doncaster needs a dedicated hospital route to take the pressure off 81/82 they could easily make 65 a circular or reroute 77 via Armthorpe Road once again in the changes no attempt has been made to alter Armthorpe there are a lot of angry people on this bus route and I have seen the anger in the last month with people missing appointments and being fined and being threatened with being sacked at Yorkshire Way because the buses are running in threes. What is the reason for wanting to change to single decker is it purely that a single decker has more seats downstairs for the elderly who use it for the hospital or just because DD's are not really needed in the town on most routes? |
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