March 1999...how times have changed since then (Read 1,558 times)

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Having recently obtained a March 1999 N.E.Derbyshire timetable I found quite a few interesting details linking my old area to the Sheffield and Meadowhall areas and thought they may jog one or two memories...

First/Mainline had almost vanished from Eckington with only 3 journeys on the 41, 2 journeys on the X41 (still serves Heathlands/Deepwell Avenue) and 2 journeys on the 263 per day.

SEM 53 hourly Monday-Saturday evenings and all day Sundays between Eckington and Sheffield.

SEM 72 hourly Monday to Saturday daytimes for full route Chesterfield to Meadowhall. Evening service still hourly but only as far as Crystal Peaks. Sundays were odd as the full route was every 2 hours but there were short journeys between Woodhouse and Meadowhall making it an hourly service between these 2 points. Bearing in mind the evening service and the whole of Sunday were operated under contract to DCC.

Aston 99 now hourly all day Monday to Saturday for full route Crystal Peaks to Calow Hospital.

Aston 252 now hourly all day Monday to Saturday with same route as current service but 4 or 5 journeys per day extended to Dinnington. 2 evening journeys per day operated by Yorkshire Terrier.

Aston by now were operating the 253 route hourly and every 2 hours on Sundays. Certain morning and evening journeys still extended to Killamarsh.

First/Mainline dominated Killamarsh with the following:

28 hourly 6 days a week.
264 hourly Monday to Saturday and every 2 hours on Sundays.
X52 hourly 7 days a week and still limited stop. 911 was the night bus service on Friday and Saturday only.
X56 hourly 6 days a week with evenings and Sundays provided by service 26. There are a remaining couple of X51 journeys and a single X29 journey (Yorkshire Terrier) included.
X57 hourly 6 days a week.

Back to Sheffield and the real oddities though...

SEM 747 Nottingham-Mansfield-Chesterfield-Sheffield-Meadowhall hourly 6 days a week and every 2 hours on Sundays (737).

SEM M1 Sutton-Mansfield-Creswell-Clowne-Meadowhall...almost hourly but on Sundays only and only operating between October and January.

First/Mainline 920 Chesterfield to Pulse Nightclub Attercliffe on Friday and Saturday nights only.

Kvaerner Metals (Darnall) works services 801/802/803 all operated by Yorkshire Terrier. 801 started at Clowne, 802 started at North Wingfield and 803 started at Brimington/Calow.

[jakerton43]

Feb 28, 2015 22:36:12 GMT @syt2007 said:

Having recently obtained a March 1999 N.E.Derbyshire timetable I found quite a few interesting details linking my old area to the Sheffield and Meadowhall areas and thought they may jog one or two memories...

First/Mainline had almost vanished from Eckington with only 3 journeys on the 41, 2 journeys on the X41 (still serves Heathlands/Deepwell Avenue) and 2 journeys on the 263 per day.

SEM 53 hourly Monday-Saturday evenings and all day Sundays between Eckington and Sheffield.

SEM 72 hourly Monday to Saturday daytimes for full route Chesterfield to Meadowhall. Evening service still hourly but only as far as Crystal Peaks. Sundays were odd as the full route was every 2 hours but there were short journeys between Woodhouse and Meadowhall making it an hourly service between these 2 points. Bearing in mind the evening service and the whole of Sunday were operated under contract to DCC.

Aston 99 now hourly all day Monday to Saturday for full route Crystal Peaks to Calow Hospital.

Aston 252 now hourly all day Monday to Saturday with same route as current service but 4 or 5 journeys per day extended to Dinnington. 2 evening journeys per day operated by Yorkshire Terrier.

Aston by now were operating the 253 route hourly and every 2 hours on Sundays. Certain morning and evening journeys still extended to Killamarsh.

First/Mainline dominated Killamarsh with the following:

28 hourly 6 days a week.
264 hourly Monday to Saturday and every 2 hours on Sundays.
X52 hourly 7 days a week and still limited stop. 911 was the night bus service on Friday and Saturday only.
X56 hourly 6 days a week with evenings and Sundays provided by service 26. There are a remaining couple of X51 journeys and a single X29 journey (Yorkshire Terrier) included.
X57 hourly 6 days a week.

Back to Sheffield and the real oddities though...

SEM 747 Nottingham-Mansfield-Chesterfield-Sheffield-Meadowhall hourly 6 days a week and every 2 hours on Sundays (737).

SEM M1 Sutton-Mansfield-Creswell-Clowne-Meadowhall...almost hourly but on Sundays only and only operating between October and January.

First/Mainline 920 Chesterfield to Pulse Nightclub Attercliffe on Friday and Saturday nights only.

Kvaerner Metals (Darnall) works services 801/802/803 all operated by Yorkshire Terrier. 801 started at Clowne, 802 started at North Wingfield and 803 started at Brimington/Calow.

Interesting! I take it the 747 is replaced by the present Pronto?

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Yes, Pronto replaced the 747 minus Sheffield and Meadowhall. Not sure if and how many minor route adjustments were made over time though.

[sweb]

There was no direct replacement for the 747, the Pronto replaced the 737.

The 747 ran direct between Chesterfield and Heath where as the 737 ran via Hasland, I believe when the 747 went the replacement was a bolstered frequency between Mansfield and Nottingham (757 also went along with 737 and 747).

An oddity with the 737 was that the first round trip from Nottingham to Sheffield on a Sunday was operated by Trent.

[metromadman]

Does anyone know the route of SEM 72. I recall a bit of the route:

Meadowhall - Darnall (via Greenland Rd, it did a tour of a little estate just off Greenland as well iirc) then to Woodhouse via 52 route?

[sweb]

I think the service went along Attercliffe Common and then up Coleridge Road then onto Greenland Road

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Mar 1, 2015 9:14:57 GMT sweb said:

There was no direct replacement for the 747, the Pronto replaced the 737.

The 747 ran direct between Chesterfield and Heath where as the 737 ran via Hasland, I believe when the 747 went the replacement was a bolstered frequency between Mansfield and Nottingham (757 also went along with 737 and 747).

An oddity with the 737 was that the first round trip from Nottingham to Sheffield on a Sunday was operated by Trent.

Thanks for the corrections. It's been a long time since I was last on a 747/737! Would the Trent journey be the last time Trent were seen in Sheffield?

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Mar 1, 2015 9:59:30 GMT metromadman said:

Does anyone know the route of SEM 72. I recall a bit of the route:

Meadowhall - Darnall (via Greenland Rd, it did a tour of a little estate just off Greenland as well iirc) then to Woodhouse via 52 route?

I can remember going past Neill Tools in Handsworth just after Richmond Park Road but can't remember much between Woodhouse and Handsworth!

It was definitely Greenland Road and the estate. Onto Attercliffe Common and I seem to think that it went as far as Tinsley Wire and turned left onto Weedon Street then right under the bridge to get to Meadowhall. Did it turn left before Weedon Street at some point in its history?

Also at the Halfway end of the route it was changed from operating via Streetfields to going through Mosborough and down Station Road to get to Westfield. That change didn't last a long time though. In the route's final days one morning journey per day served Eckington School if required by passengers onboard.