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Post by 431 on Apr 23, 2018 22:51:23 GMT
From Sunday 21st May local & London services are in for a major shake up..... Here are just a few examples
Services from Lincoln will go to Leeds instead of Adwick Services to Lincoln will no longer come from Scunthorpe they will instead start & terminate at Doncaster instead
The current service from Hull- Beverley-Bridlington Scarborough to Doncaster will go through to Sheffield, that means there will be 2 trains an hour from East Yorkshire to Sheffield
This is what happens currently between Sheffield & Doncaster services operated by Northern Monday to Saturday
XX24 to Scunthorpe....... XX41 to Hull Bridlington or Scarborough..... XX53 to Adwick
From May timetable change this is what will Happen on the Sheffield to Doncaster line services operated by Northern Monday to Saturday
XX05 to Adwick..... XX24 to Hull Bridlington Scarborough.... XX30 to Hull Bridlington Scarborough
The Hope Valley should go hourly on a Monday to Friday as its hourly on Saturdays
Train services from Leeds to Sheffield going forward to London ST Pancras are retimed in both directions
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Post by lv426 on Apr 25, 2018 7:26:14 GMT
I believe the normal daytime interval pattern from May is for services between Sheffield and Lincoln (in BOTH directions) to run as extensions to the Leeds/Sheffield semi-fasts. Lincoln-bound services don't originate at Doncaster.
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Post by 431 on Apr 25, 2018 20:38:54 GMT
I believe the normal daytime interval pattern from May is for services between Sheffield and Lincoln (in BOTH directions) to run as extensions to the Leeds/Sheffield semi-fasts. Lincoln-bound services don't originate at Doncaster You are correct..... For the record The train service from Scunthorpe will NO longer go through to Lincoln it will instead terminate at Doncaster.... the train service to Lincoln will instead come from Leeds .... Hope that clears up any confusion..... |
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Post by alemaster on Apr 29, 2018 12:41:17 GMT
The Lincoln line will eventually see two trains an hour - a 'Northern Connect' fast train Leeds-Barnsley-Sheffield-Worksop-Lincoln and an all stations Sheffield-Retford service. The first phase of this change is the Leeds-Lincoln stopping at all the stations on the Lincoln line which is basically a merger of the two existing services, once the Manchester-Preston electrification is complete and DMUs are cascaded then the Sheffield-Retford stopping service will be introduced and the Leeds-Lincoln sped up with the stops between Sheffield and Worksop removed. I believe brand new trains are planned for Leeds-Lincoln (once built!).
Meanwhile on the Sheffield-Doncaster line of the two stoppers per hour, one will continue to be Sheffield-Adwick whilst the other is linked up to the existing Doncaster-Hull stopper, so there will be two trains per hour Sheffield-Doncaster-Hull - one fast one slow.
On the Hope Valley line there are extra trains introduced on weekdays including a later last train from Sheffield at 23:27, unfortunately it isn't the hourly service offered on Saturdays due to availability of paths, some of the extra trains are at fairly random times and running limited stop down the valley to avoid the next express catching up.
On Northern's Nottingham service the evening service is improved with the 21:12 Nottingham-Sheffield train extended to Leeds and a later round trip to Nottingham offering a 21:03 Leeds-Nottingham and 23:18 Nottingham-Sheffield
There are a few subtle improvements on Transpennine Express with some early morning and late evening trains extended cross Sheffield, removal of calls at Chinley and some services operating with double units to offer much needed extra capacity.
The changes on the London line are mainly to do with the Thameslink upgrade project south of Bedford, also to watch out for are the closures at Derby over the summer as the major project to improve the track layout and signalling to improve capacity and efficiency of operation.
The other bit of rail news for our area I suppose is Supertram will be doing test running and driver training on the tram-train route to Rotherham Central and Parkgate over the summer with a view of launching passenger services in the autumn.
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Post by manclad on May 13, 2018 19:23:46 GMT
Is the plan for Leeds-Nottingham service to stay via Barnsley now rather than Wakefield Westgate?
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Post by dougie on May 14, 2018 18:39:44 GMT
Is the plan for Leeds-Nottingham service to stay via Barnsley now rather than Wakefield Westgate? AIUI it's staying via Barnsley / Kirkgate for now, but will run via Westgate (and extend to Bradford) in a year or two once the 195s are in service. No news yet on how the Nottingham - Bradford service will be timed between Sheffield and Leeds - if it's meant to run at half-hourly intervals with the XC service from Plymouth to Edinburgh (between Sheffield and Leeds) then that'll mean it goes through Sheffield around the same time as the XC service from Reading to Newcastle, which will mean it running within about ten minutes of the Norwich - Liverpool service (between Nottingham and Sheffield). So, unless you can unpick the whole knot of long distance services, is it better to have the Sheffield - Leeds service at 30/30 intervals (with the Nottingham - Sheffield service at 15/45 intervals) or the other way round? |
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Post by manclad on May 14, 2018 20:59:09 GMT
Either way, I think it should stay via Barnsley.
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Post by cheesystig on Jun 1, 2018 11:07:01 GMT
might it be possible to get network rail to raise the line speed for sprinters on the line between Sheffield and lincon. At the moment it is 60mph because of the need to fit passenger trains in between the MR coal trains. Now all the coal trains have gone, how about higher speeds? Of course, this would also apply to the Cleethorpes ine via brigg, but it would never happen as it would then be faster than the express service via Doncaster.
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Post by dougie on Jun 1, 2018 16:27:57 GMT
might it be possible to get network rail to raise the line speed for sprinters on the line between Sheffield and lincon. At the moment it is 60mph because of the need to fit passenger trains in between the MR coal trains. Now all the coal trains have gone, how about higher speeds? Of course, this would also apply to the Cleethorpes ine via brigg, but it would never happen as it would then be faster than the express service via Doncaster. Hopefully now it's been upgraded to 158s the service will be able to take advantage of the higher speeds (90mph rather than 75mph Pacers), but it might take another timetable change or two before they can rely on having sufficient 158s to guarantee availability |
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jun 2, 2018 12:18:16 GMT
might it be possible to get network rail to raise the line speed for sprinters on the line between Sheffield and lincon. At the moment it is 60mph because of the need to fit passenger trains in between the MR coal trains. Now all the coal trains have gone, how about higher speeds? Of course, this would also apply to the Cleethorpes ine via brigg, but it would never happen as it would then be faster than the express service via Doncaster. If the line speed is 60, it may be to do with the track condition, and its not suitable for 75 or 90 running, without relaying the track. If the track is suitable, but the trains are pathed at 60, then raising it may be possible. |
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