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Post by duncan on Jun 30, 2018 15:26:13 GMT
Strange that they have published the 65 Buxton timetable when the tender process was not complete. They have only published the reduced High Peak journeys - anyone any news who, if anyone, has won this tender? As I understand it, the tender was terminated at the request of High Peak buses and fell outside of the normal schedule for tenders. This means that the published timetable is "correct at the time of publishing" no doubt the updated timetable will be uploaded with the tendered journeys and operator details when the process is complete. Also, remember it is TSY who have published this. only a fool believes anything they say or do
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Post by dimtim on Jun 30, 2018 19:40:40 GMT
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Post by swfcforever on Jun 30, 2018 20:15:18 GMT
High Peak Buses. It was renamed that from Bowers, when the merger with Trent happened.
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Post by simonk82701 on Jun 30, 2018 21:06:53 GMT
According to Derbyshire's website. the timetable isn't yet available. I just hope the tender is sorted quickly and passengers given the service they deserve. The whole thing has been badly handled in my view.
I don't know when the tender should have ended, but in my view no operator should be allowed to terminate a tender early, it should only be allowed at the end of the contractual period, un less for example a company becomes insolvent.
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Post by duncan on Jun 30, 2018 21:38:55 GMT
According to Derbyshire's website. the timetable isn't yet available. I just hope the tender is sorted quickly and passengers given the service they deserve. The whole thing has been badly handled in my view. I don't know when the tender should have ended, but in my view no operator should be allowed to terminate a tender early, it should only be allowed at the end of the contractual period, un less for example a company becomes insolvent. waiting for an operator to go bust is never the best way to end a tendered service. By insisting on an operator being tied in to a contract would result in massive hikes in tenders being submitted as operators "Future proof" themselves. Using the same argument, should Virgin/Stagecoach have been forced to continue the East Coast rail franchise?
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Post by duncan on Jun 30, 2018 21:42:37 GMT
No. Thats the service revision from High Peak buses. It states that it is a revision not a new registration.
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Post by simonk82701 on Jun 30, 2018 22:02:37 GMT
Fair point regarding tenders prices going up, you're correct. I hadn't thought of it in that way. However I think they perhaps should be asked to continue running the service as it is until a new operator or contractor can be found. Don't leave people panicking wondering if their bus will be replaced. In the event that the tender process isn't successful, then the service should be withdrawn giving passengers a minimum of two months notice so alternative arrangements can be made by people. Unless I'm mistaken (please correct me if I am) the new timetable has been published a month before a major change and the tender process for the replacement services is still ongoing. Worryingly short notice and people thinking can I get to work before to long? The transition process need to be smoother and better co-ordinated
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Post by alemaster on Jul 1, 2018 15:02:29 GMT
According to the High Peak Buses webpage the company will no longer run tendered services on the 65 - they will only operate 2 commercial journeys on the route in both directions during the daytime Monday - Saturday. It states that other tendered journeys will be re-tendered by the council. Any idea who, if anyone, will bid for these? TM Travel again or maybe Hulleys of Baslow? Hulleys now operate the 66 to Chesterfield or Baslow from Buxton and this could inter-link. Any ideas here? www.highpeakbuses.com/future-service-changesIt does feel like the change from TM Travel to High Peak Bus co has killed the patronage on this route - its more expensive now - especially if you are getting a connecting bus in Sheffield, it has been less reliable and the timetable changes so it works from the Buxton end rather than the Sheffield end has made it less attractive too. There has been lots of cuts to bus services in Derbyshire as a result of DCC funding cuts, hopefully we won't be losing more due to being run by a poor bus company!
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Post by duncan on Jul 1, 2018 20:01:47 GMT
Fair point regarding tenders prices going up, you're correct. I hadn't thought of it in that way. However I think they perhaps should be asked to continue running the service as it is until a new operator or contractor can be found. Don't leave people panicking wondering if their bus will be replaced. In the event that the tender process isn't successful, then the service should be withdrawn giving passengers a minimum of two months notice so alternative arrangements can be made by people. Unless I'm mistaken (please correct me if I am) the new timetable has been published a month before a major change and the tender process for the replacement services is still ongoing. Worryingly short notice and people thinking can I get to work before to long? The transition process need to be smoother and better co-ordinated I am fairly sure a new operator will be in place by the time High Peak pull off the service. The organisation that is causing the uncertainty here is SYPTE (as usual) by publishing a timetable they know is not correct. It would not surprise me if they later try and take the credit for "saving" this DCC service.
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Post by micketh on Jul 1, 2018 20:52:15 GMT
Does anyone else feel that Hulleys may bid? They have lost other tendered work recently in other areas of the county and this could fit with their 66 service.
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Post by adyjns on Jul 5, 2018 21:59:19 GMT
Ive heard on the grape vine that chesterfield are going to be reducing the 90 service and going to be having a bus to sheffield via barrow hill is this true and if so when will this be happening
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Post by adyjns on Jul 5, 2018 22:20:15 GMT
Ive heard on the grape vine that chesterfield are going to be reducing the 90 service and going to be having a bus to sheffield via barrow hill is this true and when will this be happening
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Post by mojoe44 on Jul 6, 2018 7:37:43 GMT
Ive heard on the grape vine that chesterfield are going to be reducing the 90 service and going to be having a bus to sheffield via barrow hill is this true and when will this be happening If it is true, which I think is pretty unlikely, it certainly isn't part of the July or September changes.
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Post by duncan on Jul 6, 2018 10:31:44 GMT
Ive heard on the grape vine that chesterfield are going to be reducing the 90 service and going to be having a bus to sheffield via barrow hill is this true and when will this be happening If it is true, which I think is pretty unlikely, it certainly isn't part of the July or September changes. Sounds like yet more canteen gossip
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Post by mojoe44 on Jul 9, 2018 11:32:59 GMT
Stagecoach have won the contract for the 65, and it will be operated by the Chesterfield depot. It will also operate via the new x17 route between Sheffield and meadowhall.
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