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swfcforever Operations Director Number 49 of 224 lost Souls Posts: 9,205	Interchange Stand Allocation Sept 1, 2020 14:22:27 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by swfcforever on Sept 1, 2020 14:22:27 GMT New Stand allocation in Sheffield Interchange since 30/08/20 A1 252 Crystal Peaks A2 56 Nether Edge A3 41 Dyke Vale Road A4 7/8/8a Crystal Peaks A5 120 Halfway/Crystal Peaks B1 NOT ALLOCATED B2 NOT ALLOCATED B3 NOT ALLOCATED B4 53 Mansfield B5 50/50a/50b Chesterfield B6 NOT ALLOCATED C1 65 Meadowhall/X78 Doncaster C2 X17 Barnsley C3 NOT ALLOCATED C4 73 Rotherham C5 A1 Meadowhall C6 18 Hillsborough/32a Firth Park/135 Rotherham/208 Whiston/X7 Maltby D2 56 Wybourn D3 32 Firth Park, 65 Buxton, 218 Bakewell, 271/272 Castleton 273/274/275 Hathersage D4 X17 Chesterfield/Maltby D5 NOT ALLOCATED D6 95/95a Walkley/X5 Dinnington/X54 Harthill/X55 Dinnington FS1 120 Fulwood/Ranmoor FS2 2 Barnsley/32 Firth Park/57 Stocksbridge/95/95a Meadowhall FS3 43 Chesterfield/Dronfield/44 Chesterfield This is could be made a lot more simplier A1 A2 41 Dyke Vale Road A3 7/8/8a Crystal Peaks A4 A5 120 Halfway/Crystal Peaks B1 56 Nether Edge B2 18 Hillsborough B3 252 Crystal Peaks B4 53 Mansfield B5 50/50a/50b Chesterfield C1 X78 Doncaster C2 X17 Barnsley C3 32a Firth Park/65 Meadowhall C4 A1 Meadowhall/208 Whiston/X7 Maltby C5 X5 Dinnington/X54 Harthill/X55 Dinnington C6 135 Rotherham/57 Oughtibridge (Eve & Sun)/86 Chapeltown (Eve & Sun) D2 32 Firth Park D3 65 Buxton, 218 Bakewell, 271/272 Castleton 273/274/275 Hathersage D4 X17 Chesterfield/Matlock D5 56 Wybourn D6 95/95a Walkley FS1 120 Fulwood/Ranmoor FS2 2 Barnsley/32 Firth Park/57 Stocksbridge/95/95a Meadowhall FS3 43 Chesterfield/Dronfield/44 Chesterfield All buses up City Road area along 1 set of stands (A4 Empty cos 120's can arrive in pair's. or even split them up) All buses down East End/Meadowhall together All Peak Buses together, or even put them on D2 and D3. 18, 56, 252 together whch all go around Heeley 32 and 32a go seperate routes, so need to be seperated. A1 Empty If anyone can improve it, have a go . What about Rotherham, Doncaster and Barnsley?
	Last Edit: Sept 3, 2020 21:48:12 GMT by swfcforever I'm glad you asked me twice. You see I'm a bilingual. A bilingual illiterate - I can't read in two languages.

TC60054 Inspector Posts: 895	Interchange Stand Allocation Sept 1, 2020 14:47:56 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TC60054 on Sept 1, 2020 14:47:56 GMT Biggest issue I can see there is that you'd be having routes which run down Flat Street passing through the A stands, turning round into the B stands then having to go all the way around the bus station to get out onto Pond Street.

swfcforever Operations Director Number 49 of 224 lost Souls Posts: 9,205	Interchange Stand Allocation Sept 1, 2020 15:39:48 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by swfcforever on Sept 1, 2020 15:39:48 GMT Sept 1, 2020 14:47:56 GMT TC60054 said: Biggest issue I can see there is that you'd be having routes which run down Flat Street passing through the A stands, turning round into the B stands then having to go all the way around the bus station to get out onto Pond Street. That's a good point. So keep A stand as it is, move 18 to B1
	I'm glad you asked me twice. You see I'm a bilingual. A bilingual illiterate - I can't read in two languages.

dougie Managing Director Posts: 3,935	Interchange Stand Allocation Sept 2, 2020 12:46:00 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dougie on Sept 2, 2020 12:46:00 GMT I certainly prefer your proposal to the current messy set up. My one suggestion would be that the services towards Furnival Street could all go from the "A" stands and the services towards Manor Top could go from the "D" stands, since that would avoid them crossing over on Harmer Lane - that way they can both get out of the Interchange faster.

swfcforever Operations Director Number 49 of 224 lost Souls Posts: 9,205	Interchange Stand Allocation Sept 2, 2020 15:38:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by swfcforever on Sept 2, 2020 15:38:16 GMT Sept 2, 2020 12:46:00 GMT dougie said: I certainly prefer your proposal to the current messy set up. My one suggestion would be that the services towards Furnival Street could all go from the "A" stands and the services towards Manor Top could go from the "D" stands, since that would avoid them crossing over on Harmer Lane - that way they can both get out of the Interchange faster. Now thats a good idea. A very good idea
	I'm glad you asked me twice. You see I'm a bilingual. A bilingual illiterate - I can't read in two languages.

duncan Operations Manager isnt it queit now we can block the dipsticks? Posts: 2,422	Interchange Stand Allocation Sept 3, 2020 7:53:54 GMT swfcforever likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by duncan on Sept 3, 2020 7:53:54 GMT Sept 2, 2020 15:38:16 GMT swfcforever said: Sept 2, 2020 12:46:00 GMT dougie said: I certainly prefer your proposal to the current messy set up. My one suggestion would be that the services towards Furnival Street could all go from the "A" stands and the services towards Manor Top could go from the "D" stands, since that would avoid them crossing over on Harmer Lane - that way they can both get out of the Interchange faster. Now thats a good idea. A very good idea When allocating stands the timetable plays a large part in the proceedings as they try to make sure buses will not be blocked from stands due to clashing services. This of course depends on buses running on time and drivers not arriving too early or leaving buses on the stand whilst on their breaks. They also try to keep routes in groups by their destinations but that is not always easy as some routes justifiably could be put in two groups depending on their corridor and ultimate destinations. Stand allocation is a very difficult thing to do and often looks to be ill thought out from the outside.

dougie Managing Director Posts: 3,935	Interchange Stand Allocation Sept 3, 2020 18:06:22 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dougie on Sept 3, 2020 18:06:22 GMT It must be a very complicated "art", given the way that routes go (e.g. should the 252 be put with Heeley services like the 18 or with Eckington services like the 50) - I just know from bitter experience that the diversion into the main interchange and back out again can add quite a while to the Walkley bound 95 (compared to running along Pond Street, and the junction of Pond Street/ Harmer Lane can see a few buses delayed as they all do the tight turn fairly slowly and the different routes get in each others ways.

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