Bus waiting times at terminus (Read 1,094 times)

[donc]

I noticed today that 15 service in Doncaster on a Sunday has a 32 minute wait time at Clay Lane, I thought this was an error so watched it on live tracker and it really sits there for over half an hour, but at Edlington it has a 1 minute wait and in Doncaster 3 minutes.

Just curious as to why they would give a bus service such a long wait time, is it classed as a break for the driver and what is the longest wait time any bus has at a terminus.

[simonk82701]

Oct 9, 2022 8:29:52 GMT donc said:

I noticed today that 15 service in Doncaster on a Sunday has a 32 minute wait time at Clay Lane, I thought this was an error so watched it on live tracker and it really sits there for over half an hour, but at Edlington it has a 1 minute wait and in Doncaster 3 minutes.

Just curious as to why they would give a bus service such a long wait time, is it classed as a break for the driver and what is the longest wait time any bus has at a terminus.

I am not 100% sure, but I would have thought for it to be classed as a break, the driver would be entitled to be away from their vehicle, to go for a drink and have toilet facilities. A bit difficult if you are at a remote terminus. I suspect the best person to know this maybe Duncan. He has certainly put me right on a few things. I had no idea just how much passengers came at the bottom of the pile, when it came to how it is decided buses should run.

[peggy]

The wait time I assume is purely to give the service a 60minute frequency. I don't know Doncaster services well, but this looks like a through service so can't wait in Doncaster for long if there's through passengers. The wait time will not likely be part of the drivers break as stated above. When I was a driver a few years back the 47/48 when it used to serve Herdings on a Sunday morning buses used to wait some time at Herdings terminus can't remember exactly but 40mins rings a bell wasn't part of your break, although I had a cheeky nap sometimes just set my alarm for 5mins before departure.

[jakerton43]

Also the 87A on a Sunday has 30 mins waiting at Staniforth..Of all places!

[overground]

I believe it will be to retain a 60 minute frequency. Hatter Drive terminus in Edlington isn’t ideal to be sat waiting for any length of time and it’s no good on a cross town route having a long wait half way along the route.

My opinion is it wants splitting up and the 15 just run Doncaster-Edlington the same as the 66 would run better split up. I can’t believe there still isn’t a bus service down Wheatley Hall Road with the shops/food places and all the new houses going up

As for drivers having breaks at outer terminus such as Clay Lane, First don’t do it

[donc]

Oct 10, 2022 22:06:37 GMT overground said:

I believe it will be to retain a 60 minute frequency. Hatter Drive terminus in Edlington isn’t ideal to be sat waiting for any length of time and it’s no good on a cross town route having a long wait half way along the route.

My opinion is it wants splitting up and the 15 just run Doncaster-Edlington the same as the 66 would run better split up. I can’t believe there still isn’t a bus service down Wheatley Hall Road with the shops/food places and all the new houses going up

As for drivers having breaks at outer terminus such as Clay Lane, First don’t do it

They tried sending 15 down Wheatley Hall Road it didn't work it picked up virtually nobody, Wheatley Hall Road is not a good bus route, most buses need to go along Thorne Road for hospital purposes, it worked fine in the 90s when Crompton Road was accessible but since it isn't busy enough to justify a route along there especially now 84 is non existent and no bus goes through Edenthorpe/Sunnyside to go down Wheatley Hall Road.

They could split 15 on a Sunday and have Edlington twice an hour, they should have sent 84 down Beckett Road and that would have made it profitable.

[overground]

Oct 11, 2022 12:59:52 GMT donc said:

Oct 10, 2022 22:06:37 GMT overground said:

I believe it will be to retain a 60 minute frequency. Hatter Drive terminus in Edlington isn’t ideal to be sat waiting for any length of time and it’s no good on a cross town route having a long wait half way along the route.

My opinion is it wants splitting up and the 15 just run Doncaster-Edlington the same as the 66 would run better split up. I can’t believe there still isn’t a bus service down Wheatley Hall Road with the shops/food places and all the new houses going up

As for drivers having breaks at outer terminus such as Clay Lane, First don’t do it

They tried sending 15 down Wheatley Hall Road it didn't work it picked up virtually nobody, Wheatley Hall Road is not a good bus route, most buses need to go along Thorne Road for hospital purposes, it worked fine in the 90s when Crompton Road was accessible but since it isn't busy enough to justify a route along there especially now 84 is non existent and no bus goes through Edenthorpe/Sunnyside to go down Wheatley Hall Road.

They could split 15 on a Sunday and have Edlington twice an hour, they should have sent 84 down Beckett Road and that would have made it profitable.

Re Wheatley Hall Road I was thinking more about the stuff that’s gone up along there over more recent years, they’re still on with building a big housing estate now. I get the hospital needs buses yes.

If I lived at Clay Lane or along the 84 route I wouldn’t want my bus going down Beckett Road slowing the journey time down and getting windows bricked at night and such like and then parked cars are a constant problem on Nether Hall Road

[donc]

Oct 12, 2022 22:56:14 GMT overground said:

Oct 11, 2022 12:59:52 GMT donc said:

They tried sending 15 down Wheatley Hall Road it didn't work it picked up virtually nobody, Wheatley Hall Road is not a good bus route, most buses need to go along Thorne Road for hospital purposes, it worked fine in the 90s when Crompton Road was accessible but since it isn't busy enough to justify a route along there especially now 84 is non existent and no bus goes through Edenthorpe/Sunnyside to go down Wheatley Hall Road.

They could split 15 on a Sunday and have Edlington twice an hour, they should have sent 84 down Beckett Road and that would have made it profitable.

Re Wheatley Hall Road I was thinking more about the stuff that’s gone up along there over more recent years, they’re still on with building a big housing estate now. I get the hospital needs buses yes.

If I lived at Clay Lane or along the 84 route I wouldn’t want my bus going down Beckett Road slowing the journey time down and getting windows bricked at night and such like and then parked cars are a constant problem on Nether Hall Road

If you work at Tickhill Road Hospital and done a long shift do you want to go through Hexthorpe and get a brick through the window, it's tough really buses now do longer routes, so diverting 84 down Beckett Road would make sense as 15 is sparse of passengers Beckett Road side.