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Post by rothlad on Nov 11, 2022 9:23:10 GMT
Have it on good authority that SYMCA have been able to source more operators to take on some tendered services, some which haven't run since July 2022.
As things stand, this should be routes:
- 32 Sheffield - Firth Park - 114 Rotherham - Dovedale Road - 138 Rotherham - Kimberworth Park - 227 Rotherham - Hoyland - M17 Jordanthorpe - Dore
Understand there will be a new operator to South Yorkshire running some of these services. Unsure on start dates but they could be progressed through as short notice changes, so could be anytime.
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Post by duncan on Nov 11, 2022 11:48:31 GMT
Understand there will be a new operator to South Yorkshire running some of these services. Unsure on start dates but they could be progressed through as short notice changes, so could be anytime. Interesting that SYPTE / SYMCA are having to go outside the area to get operators who are prepared to work for them. Speaks volumes.
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Post by syjunkie on Nov 11, 2022 14:11:19 GMT
Understand there will be a new operator to South Yorkshire running some of these services. Unsure on start dates but they could be progressed through as short notice changes, so could be anytime. Interesting that SYPTE / SYMCA are having to go outside the area to get operators who are prepared to work for them. Speaks volumes. Any idea who the new operator is?
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Post by simonk82701 on Nov 11, 2022 20:01:19 GMT
Understand there will be a new operator to South Yorkshire running some of these services. Unsure on start dates but they could be progressed through as short notice changes, so could be anytime. Interesting that SYPTE / SYMCA are having to go outside the area to get operators who are prepared to work for them. Speaks volumes. Isn't it just. They were concerned about funding week ago, yet they manage to bring in the £2 single fayre cap two months before other areas, unless the budget changes things. I would sooner the focused on running services, instead of capping single fayres. But there you go, what do I know?
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Post by simonk82701 on Nov 13, 2022 21:27:19 GMT
I wonder if the 233 will have an evening or Sunday service as part of these changes? same applies to the 137 for instance, I doubt it be you never know!
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Post by syjunkie on Nov 13, 2022 22:08:21 GMT
I wonder if the 233 will have an evening or Sunday service as part of these changes? same applies to the 137 for instance, I doubt it be you never know! I'm surprised that the 137 doesn't have a later finishing time with meadowhall open till 10 now
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Post by simonk82701 on Nov 14, 2022 18:29:03 GMT
I wonder if the 233 will have an evening or Sunday service as part of these changes? same applies to the 137 for instance, I doubt it be you never know! I'm surprised that the 137 doesn't have a later finishing time with meadowhall open till 10 now I think part of the problem is finding an operator prepared to even bid for evening work, because of nationwide driver shortages.
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Post by syjunkie on Nov 16, 2022 20:44:29 GMT
Understand there will be a new operator to South Yorkshire running some of these services. Unsure on start dates but they could be progressed through as short notice changes, so could be anytime. Anyone taking guesses who the new operator could be? Transdev or rotala perhaps or a new independent
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Post by duncan on Nov 17, 2022 14:49:42 GMT
Understand there will be a new operator to South Yorkshire running some of these services. Unsure on start dates but they could be progressed through as short notice changes, so could be anytime. Anyone taking guesses who the new operator could be? Transdev or rotala perhaps or a new independent I would bet heavily on an independent from outside the area that has not worked for SYPTE / SYMCA before and is therefore not aware of how it can pan out. Someone not too streetwise would be an ideal choice.
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Post by simonk82701 on Nov 29, 2022 15:18:42 GMT
No sign of these "new services" yet. SYMCA is probably more concerned about running services on boxing day and New Year's Day! There we go.
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Post by syjunkie on Nov 29, 2022 18:22:43 GMT
No sign of these "new services" yet. SYMCA is probably more concerned about running services on boxing day and New Year's Day! There we go. Or more than likely will be noted as "short notice"
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Post by simonk82701 on Nov 29, 2022 21:46:36 GMT
No sign of these "new services" yet. SYMCA is probably more concerned about running services on boxing day and New Year's Day! There we go. Or more than likely will be noted as "short notice" Yes, what I meant was I thought they would have started running under short notice by now. Areas have now been without a service for nearly 8 weeks now. Everything seems so slow and bureaucratic. A service can be removed with around 5 days public notice, yet it takes 8-10 weeks to reinstate it. Operators are harder to come across now I suppose. I am seeing quite a few complaints on twitter about the regular punctuality and cancelation issues with regard to the 21, 135 and 137. At least they are trying to maintain a service, but I think people's patience is wearing a little thin with regard to these services. All I can think is careful what passengers wish for!
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Post by duncan on Nov 30, 2022 8:55:43 GMT
Or more than likely will be noted as "short notice" Yes, what I meant was I thought they would have started running under short notice by now. Areas have now been without a service for nearly 8 weeks now. Everything seems so slow and bureaucratic. A service can be removed with around 5 days public notice, yet it takes 8-10 weeks to reinstate it. Operators are harder to come across now I suppose. I am seeing quite a few complaints on twitter about the regular punctuality and cancelation issues with regard to the 21, 135 and 137. At least they are trying to maintain a service, but I think people's patience is wearing a little thin with regard to these services. All I can think is careful what passengers wish for! Operators do talk to each other. I would suggest that the "silver bullet" operators that have been talked of have taken the time to talk to others and maybe are not so interested now they know whats involved. As for the stagecoach services not running / being cancelled / unreliable, there is a clue in that I was approached by an agency (cold called) to work for Stagecoach in Sheffield for astronomical money. Given that I voluntarily surrendered my licence over a year ago........
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Post by simonk82701 on Nov 30, 2022 21:27:26 GMT
Yes, what I meant was I thought they would have started running under short notice by now. Areas have now been without a service for nearly 8 weeks now. Everything seems so slow and bureaucratic. A service can be removed with around 5 days public notice, yet it takes 8-10 weeks to reinstate it. Operators are harder to come across now I suppose. I am seeing quite a few complaints on twitter about the regular punctuality and cancelation issues with regard to the 21, 135 and 137. At least they are trying to maintain a service, but I think people's patience is wearing a little thin with regard to these services. All I can think is careful what passengers wish for! Operators do talk to each other. I would suggest that the "silver bullet" operators that have been talked of have taken the time to talk to others and maybe are not so interested now they know whats involved. As for the stagecoach services not running / being cancelled / unreliable, there is a clue in that I was approached by an agency (cold called) to work for Stagecoach in Sheffield for astronomical money. Given that I voluntarily surrendered my licence over a year ago........ Goodness me, that says a heck of a lot, doesn't it? Surly they would be better paying an enhanced rate to their existing staff, rather than forking out high agency fees? What do I know? Another good driver in the industry gone. One of my friends recently left SEM to drive/shunt cargo trains. £30,000pa just for the training period, and no public abuse. There's the problem. How do we make the job more attractive? Will the industry have to rely on migrants for example, or are we looking at a permanent/terminal decline of the industry? In which case people will never be able to not rely on the car!
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