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Post by simonk82701 on Oct 23, 2023 16:36:11 GMT
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Post by crossscythe on Oct 24, 2023 9:42:06 GMT
Something had to be done. The upcoming services changes will make us look like a third world country.
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Post by bususer on Oct 25, 2023 14:20:56 GMT
Not sure about third world but it is disgusting that one of England's largest conurbations has only a one per hour service after 6pm. Out of interest how does this compare to other cities in England? I know London has a network of night buses but what about other large cities such as Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham etc?
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Post by overground on Oct 25, 2023 21:39:20 GMT
It’s alright moaning about there being a lack of buses in the evening but no one can afford to carry fresh air round all night getting windows bricked day in day out
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Post by simonk82701 on Oct 26, 2023 19:39:25 GMT
It’s alright moaning about there being a lack of buses in the evening but no one can afford to carry fresh air round all night getting windows bricked day in day out Carrying fresh air, okay but one Sheffield is trying to limit the use of cars, but not providing services to make up for it. And two windows being put through is cause because the police and legal system don't deal appropriately. |
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Post by donc on Oct 26, 2023 20:56:52 GMT
It’s alright moaning about there being a lack of buses in the evening but no one can afford to carry fresh air round all night getting windows bricked day in day out Carrying fresh air, okay but one Sheffield is trying to limit the use of cars, but not providing services to make up for it. And two windows being put through is cause because the police and legal system don't deal appropriately. Sheffield has plenty of alternatives, there is a tram system and numerous local train services, yes not every area but Sheffield has more transport options than the rest of SY and as long as the areas that only have a bus service are covered then join the rest of the county and deal with it. Think about areas like Tickhill, Bawtry, Maltby etc who don't have a tram or a local train station. |
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Post by overground on Oct 26, 2023 23:44:33 GMT
It’s alright moaning about there being a lack of buses in the evening but no one can afford to carry fresh air round all night getting windows bricked day in day out Carrying fresh air, okay but one Sheffield is trying to limit the use of cars, but not providing services to make up for it. And two windows being put through is cause because the police and legal system don't deal appropriately. But the reality of it is that a lot of the evening services in recent years have had very few people on them. It’s not uncommon to hear a driver say “I’ve took nothing tonight”. The fact remains that too many buses suffer vandalism, a lot of which happens during the evening and when they’re not picking many people up in the first place… it’s a dead loss |
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Post by simonk82701 on Oct 27, 2023 8:04:13 GMT
Carrying fresh air, okay but one Sheffield is trying to limit the use of cars, but not providing services to make up for it. And two windows being put through is cause because the police and legal system don't deal appropriately. Sheffield has plenty of alternatives, there is a tram system and numerous local train services, yes not every area but Sheffield has more transport options than the rest of SY and as long as the areas that only have a bus service are covered then join the rest of the county and deal with it. Think about areas like Tickhill, Bawtry, Maltby etc who don't have a tram or a local train station. Yes I agree. Sorry I really meant to say the whole of SY. areas of Doncaster are phatically poor. I live on the 22 route, (Doncaster) That can be very poor. |
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Post by simonk82701 on Oct 27, 2023 8:17:28 GMT
Carrying fresh air, okay but one Sheffield is trying to limit the use of cars, but not providing services to make up for it. And two windows being put through is cause because the police and legal system don't deal appropriately. But the reality of it is that a lot of the evening services in recent years have had very few people on them. It’s not uncommon to hear a driver say “I’ve took nothing tonight”. The fact remains that too many buses suffer vandalism, a lot of which happens during the evening and when they’re not picking many people up in the first place… it’s a dead loss The police and legal system need to start being penalised. They are not interested in basic policing anymore, which means we are all punished. I understand that takings maybe an issue, but remember, the industry has had a lot of money pumped in over recent years. A bit like the banks did. All we seem to get in return are punctuality issues and driver shortages. There is no excuse for example for 5 days public notice when the service 27 in Rotherham was withdrawn. The industry needs to look at it's management structure, listen to it's drivers more, who often have the best ideas. My friend has a driving duty where you drive from either Dinnington or Doncaster can't remember which, dead to the other place. So much waste. The duty could have changed recently but still. Management are too set in their ways. |
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Post by crossscythe on Oct 29, 2023 19:23:26 GMT
It’s alright moaning about there being a lack of buses in the evening but no one can afford to carry fresh air round all night getting windows bricked day in day out The buses I catch in the evenings are quite full with passengers. I have seen other routes that are quieter in the evening but this has been the case since day dot. Don't send buses up places like Fox Hill and High Green where bricking is common. Let the little s*** 's parents deal with the blame for the estate having no bus service but don't let areas which have little to no issues with vandalism suffer. The bus stops at Broomhill have queues at all times of day. |
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Post by crossscythe on Oct 29, 2023 19:37:05 GMT
Carrying fresh air, okay but one Sheffield is trying to limit the use of cars, but not providing services to make up for it. And two windows being put through is cause because the police and legal system don't deal appropriately. Sheffield has plenty of alternatives, there is a tram system and numerous local train services, yes not every area but Sheffield has more transport options than the rest of SY and as long as the areas that only have a bus service are covered then join the rest of the county and deal with it. Think about areas like Tickhill, Bawtry, Maltby etc who don't have a tram or a local train station. Maltby has the X10 and X10 linking it to Rotherham, Meadowhall and Sheffield and serving different estates around Maltby. Bawtry and Tickhill I take your point. Doncaster has Kirk Sandall, Hatfield, Thorne, Bentley and Adwick and Rotherham has Kiveton Stations and Swinton and the Dearne Valley Towns, Goldthorpe etc have an hourly rail service. |
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Post by bususer on Oct 30, 2023 16:16:38 GMT
It’s alright moaning about there being a lack of buses in the evening but no one can afford to carry fresh air round all night getting windows bricked day in day out Carrying fresh air, okay but one Sheffield is trying to limit the use of cars, but not providing services to make up for it. And two windows being put through is cause because the police and legal system don't deal appropriately. I would disagree. The local authority can afford this. People are being forced to use taxis, which are not exactly cheap especially if on your own and nobody to share the fare with. What this is doing is effectively pushing the cost from the government to the individual. Better to scrap child fares if money is so tight than stop buses at 11pm on a Saturday night. |
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Post by crossscythe on Oct 30, 2023 20:56:29 GMT
I am not au fait with politics, but Derbyshire Council were able to get a substantial bus improvement fund that created the partnership with Hulley's and the railways and provided the nice services out to Glossop, Chesterfield , Bakewell etc. I assume this came from central government. If the SYMCA can get central gov to fund the tram Train to Parkgate project, why can't they apply for funding to strengthen bus services?
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Post by TC60054 on Oct 31, 2023 0:06:11 GMT
I am not au fait with politics, but Derbyshire Council were able to get a substantial bus improvement fund that created the partnership with Hulley's and the railways and provided the nice services out to Glossop, Chesterfield , Bakewell etc. I assume this came from central government. If the SYMCA can get central gov to fund the tram Train to Parkgate project, why can't they apply for funding to strengthen bus services? The money received by DCC was for improving bus services, not propping existing services up, so it wouldn't make a difference. |
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Post by bususer on Nov 1, 2023 16:06:22 GMT
Does this extra funding mean the recent cuts will be reversed and if so when?
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