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Post by dougie on Jan 13, 2009 21:54:23 GMT
Which one route (from a terminus into the local town/ city centre) has had the most route numbers since deregulation?
Whilst some (like Crookes terminus - Western Bank - City) have only had the one number, there's some that have had several.
To take southern Sheffield as an example:
Totley terminus - Abbeydale Road - City: 24, 97, 247, 248
Totley Brook - Abbeydale Road - City: 17, 42, 97A, 98
Batemoor - Archer Road - City: 36, 436, 487, 502
Batemoor - Woodseats - City: 40, 41, 72, 72A, 72B, 72X, 75, 501
(There's probably a few others you could add to the above examples)
The only rules are that all such routes must run the same way into the town/ city centre (the 36 and 502 had different routes in central Sheffield, but ran the same way between the terminus and centre), it doesn't matter if they had a different route on the other side of town, and that you count the far terminus (not just "Hillsborough - City" or "Woodseats - City").
Quite a few Rotherham and Doncaster routes gained a new number when they lost their "1XX" number, for example, without changing the actual route.
(to avoid argument, if there are longer distance routes that followed exactly the same route, like 213, 218, X18, X23 in the example of Totley, then count them seperately in brackets afterwards)
(Whilst this is about bus routes, I've put it in the "History" section as it's about older ones)
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Post by mick on Feb 7, 2009 14:00:55 GMT
Can't think of any of the top of my head but I know the Mosborough and Killamarsh network has been messed with quite a lot since deregulation.
Around my local area we have had a few changes over recent years such as the 64 to Charnock and the 51 to Leighton Road then the 64 withdrawn and the 51 to Charnock etc.
Out of interest the 24 to Totley was that the Rotherham to Totley route via Brinsworth and Tinsley or are we talking about another 24 here?
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Post by jswallow on Feb 7, 2009 15:21:29 GMT
Here's a couple (showing numbers from oldest used to newest) ...
Fulwood - City via Endcliffe -> 33, 88, 86 (could be something else between the 33 and 88, but I can't remember what)
High Storrs - City via Greystones (in that direction) -> 83, 84, 87, 82
City - High Storrs via Greystones (in that direction) -> 83, 87, 81
Yes, Totley - City - Brinsworth/Rotherham
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Post by dougie on Feb 7, 2009 18:13:16 GMT
Out of interest the 24 to Totley was that the Rotherham to Totley route via Brinsworth and Tinsley or are we talking about another 24 here? Yes (as JohnS says). As far as I can remember: It was every twenty minutes Totley - Sheffield - Attercliffe - St Lawrence Road - Rotherham (co ordinated with the 69 to give a ten minute service between Sheffield and Rotherham, though the 69 stayed on the main road in Tinsley. The 24 was later diverted from Tinsley via Brinsworth to Catcliffe instead (but it never ran Sheffield - Brinsworth - Rotherham as far as I know - could be wrong!). Brinsworth routes have been chopped and changed several times over the years (the recent "tinkering" is nothing new) - for example there used to be a 124/134 circular from Sheffield - Tinsley - Brinsworth - Catcliffe - Parkway - Sheffield). Plus the Sheafline 424 from Sheffield etc. To give another couple of examples, Sheffield - Manor Park - Woodhouse has been (via Stradbroke) 93, 13/14 (via Fishponds) 21*, 64, 25/ 25A * - the 21 from Hemsworth only ran at peak time east of Fishponds, it was replaced by the Eager Beaver 92 which only ran as far as Fishponds. JohnS: I *think* there was a Sheafline service from Fulwood - City via Endcliffe - was it the 474 or something like that? |
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Post by jswallow on Feb 7, 2009 23:38:20 GMT
I just remember Sheafline (when in SYT ownership) running the 88 as Fulwood - City - Chapeltown with no SYT-proper service. I'm convinced there was some sort of 4XX service, but 474 doesn't ring true. 486 is what I'm thinking, but don't know where it would have gone.  |
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Post by moonraker79 on Feb 8, 2009 10:51:00 GMT
Doncaster - Moorends has had quite a few: 87, 88, 88A, 185, 186, 187, 188, 249, 250, X88
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Post by mattw on Feb 8, 2009 16:58:25 GMT
Mexborough, Denaby & Conisbrough into Doncaster Centre has had a lot...
X78 Sheffield - Doncaster (Conisbo Only) (current)
288 Rotherham - Doncaster (now 221)
289 Rotherham - Doncaster (now 221)
290 Rotherham - Doncaster (now 221)
X92 Meadowhall - Doncaster (now 220)
222 Barnsley - Doncaster (current)
223 Barnsley - Doncaster (now 222)
396 Rotherham - Doncaster
397 Rotherham - Doncaster (now 396)
398 Conisbrough Circle - Doncaster (Conisbo Only) (now 396)
295 Rotherham - Doncaster (288/9 & X92 now 220/221)
296 Rotherham - Doncaster (288/9 & X92 now 220/221)
297 Rotherham - Doncaster (288/9 & X92 now 220/221)
298 Rotherham - Doncaster (288/9 & X92 now 220/221)
220 Rotherham - Doncaster (current)
221 Rotherham - Doncaster (current)
X77 Sheffield - Doncaster (Conisbo Only) (now X78)
278 Sheffield - Doncaster (Conisbo Only) (Now X78)
Now think that somehow has to be one of the longest lists on here!
Mexborough into Rotherham also has had a lot of different route numbers:
218 Barnsley - Rotherham (current)
220 Doncaster - Rotherham (current)
221 Doncaster - Rotherham (current)
396 Doncaster - Rotherham (current
397 Doncaster - Rotherham (now 396)
288 Doncaster - Rotherham (now 221)
X92 Doncaster - Meadowhall (now 220)
289 Conisbrough - Rotherham (now 221)
295 Doncaster - Rotherham (now 221)
296 Doncaster - Rotherham (now 221)
297 Doncaster - Rotherham (now 221)
298 Doncaster - Rotherham (now 221)
77 Windhill - Rotherham (now 221)
79 Barnsley - Rotherham (now 218)
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