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Post by crossscythe on May 6, 2024 19:22:26 GMT
The Streetlites already work interchangably with the B9s and E400s on routes such as 51 and 52a. It should be an adequate replacement. The Streetlites perform better on hills than the E400s too. The only B9 being replaced anyway is YNO7MLE which has suffered engine failure. I think adequete is a bit of strong word, it's undoubtedly a capacity decrease if Streetlites step in to gradually replace B9s over the next few years. But then I find FSY's disregard for allocations barring the 120 and X routes baffling The 120 really needs the double decker capacity, it gets busy all along the route and especially on the city-Birley Spa Lane stretch - I wouldn't be surprised if that was the most profitable route in Sheffield. The Xs vary. The Doncaster ones need a double deck for the Peaks but Off -Peak, a single deck would suffice. |
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Post by TC60054 on May 6, 2024 19:49:06 GMT
37541 off fleet.
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Post by Mainline on May 6, 2024 21:17:36 GMT
AFAIK the Streetdecks are replacements for the Enviro 400s. I suspect the 6946x's will be transferred to Doncaster, with 695xx's coming to OG from Rochdale. Also believe that approx. 20 Streetlites (eclipse branded ones) are due to move up to OG from Portsmouth, Fareham & Gosport in return for the electric Kite's currently being stored. Rochdale's Eclipses coming in to displace the old Leicester Eclipses makes a lot of sense, big fan of the ex-Bristol Airport ones in particular, but what's the thinking behind the Portsmouth Streetlites? I don't think that'll go down very well if they're coming to help replace B9s and E400s The Portsmouth Streetlites are likely to displace the older Daimler engines Streetlites which suffer from endless problems. The Streetlites are nothing to do with B9/E400 replacement, that’s the job of the Streetdecks. |
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Post by Mainline on May 6, 2024 21:20:44 GMT
Rochdale's Eclipses coming in to displace the old Leicester Eclipses makes a lot of sense, big fan of the ex-Bristol Airport ones in particular, but what's the thinking behind the Portsmouth Streetlites? I don't think that'll go down very well if they're coming to help replace B9s and E400s The Streetlites already work interchangably with the B9s and E400s on routes such as 51 and 52a. It should be an adequate replacement. The Streetlites perform better on hills than the E400s too. The only B9 being replaced anyway is YNO7MLE which has suffered engine failure. They work interchangeably because that’s all there is. It could be Solos or Enviro 500s - they’d still work interchangeably. There’s a shortage of double deckers, so they’re spread across routes and the left over allocations are allocated what is left. |
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Post by overground on May 6, 2024 21:26:03 GMT
Rochdale's Eclipses coming in to displace the old Leicester Eclipses makes a lot of sense, big fan of the ex-Bristol Airport ones in particular, but what's the thinking behind the Portsmouth Streetlites? I don't think that'll go down very well if they're coming to help replace B9s and E400s The Portsmouth Streetlites are likely to displace the older Daimler engines Streetlites which suffer from endless problems. The Streetlites are nothing to do with B9/E400 replacement, that’s the job of the Streetdecks. The Daimler engine Streetlites are the newer ones (633xxs) including the ones which came from Leicester, the older ones are the Cummins engine. 63107/108 are for Doncaster and 63107 is currently having a new engine |
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Post by Mainline on May 6, 2024 21:28:20 GMT
The Portsmouth Streetlites are likely to displace the older Daimler engines Streetlites which suffer from endless problems. The Streetlites are nothing to do with B9/E400 replacement, that’s the job of the Streetdecks. The Daimler engine Streetlites are the newer ones (633xxs) including the ones which came from Leicester, the older ones are the Cummins engine. 63107/108 are for Doncaster and 63107 is currently having a new engine I meant the older ones as in pre-HEV Daimler engined, worded it quite poorly. |
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Post by Mainline on May 6, 2024 21:29:00 GMT
The Portsmouth Streetlites are likely to displace the older Daimler engines Streetlites which suffer from endless problems. The Streetlites are nothing to do with B9/E400 replacement, that’s the job of the Streetdecks. The Daimler engine Streetlites are the newer ones (633xxs) including the ones which came from Leicester, the older ones are the Cummins engine. 63107/108 are for Doncaster and 63107 is currently having a new engine Also believe long term plan is 63107-108 are to Manchester. |
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Post by crossscythe on May 6, 2024 21:53:24 GMT
63107/8 are Cummins, I believe. The SM14 ones are Cummins. The SL16 ones are Daimler, including my favourite, 63384. The 2018 government funded ones are also Daimler, running at 230hp.
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Post by tom123 on May 6, 2024 22:00:57 GMT
Rochdale's Eclipses coming in to displace the old Leicester Eclipses makes a lot of sense, big fan of the ex-Bristol Airport ones in particular, but what's the thinking behind the Portsmouth Streetlites? I don't think that'll go down very well if they're coming to help replace B9s and E400s Are the ex Bristol Eclipses being replaced? There are a number of OG vehicles to move to Doncaster: off the top of my head 36203/4/36246-50/37552/63107/108/69461-64 with possibility some more what moving to OG in exchange particularly double deckers. , Is OG keeping any 362s besides 36243-45 36275 |
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Post by tom123 on May 6, 2024 22:02:43 GMT
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Post by overground on May 6, 2024 22:04:16 GMT
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Post by overground on May 6, 2024 22:04:46 GMT
Are the ex Bristol Eclipses being replaced? There are a number of OG vehicles to move to Doncaster: off the top of my head 36203/4/36246-50/37552/63107/108/69461-64 with possibility some more what moving to OG in exchange particularly double deckers. , Is OG keeping any 362s besides 36243-45 36275 All single deckers, lots of them |
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Post by tom123 on May 6, 2024 22:11:24 GMT
what moving to OG in exchange particularly double deckers. , Is OG keeping any 362s besides 36243-45 36275 All single deckers, lots of them is doubles og particularly needs there a lot of singles already at OG 63048-52 63054 -60 &66 63250 63350-55 63369 71 76 -80 82 84 -88 63901-13 69438 -42 69502 -4 8 12 -14 69521 -28 &30 |
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Post by td on May 7, 2024 0:53:33 GMT
Rochdale's Eclipses coming in to displace the old Leicester Eclipses makes a lot of sense, big fan of the ex-Bristol Airport ones in particular, but what's the thinking behind the Portsmouth Streetlites? I don't think that'll go down very well if they're coming to help replace B9s and E400s The Portsmouth Streetlites are likely to displace the older Daimler engines Streetlites which suffer from endless problems. The Streetlites are nothing to do with B9/E400 replacement, that’s the job of the Streetdecks. Ah this makes a lot more sense than singles replacing deckers, had no idea the 633xx's were outgoing |
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Post by tom123 on May 7, 2024 7:04:44 GMT
I think adequete is a bit of strong word, it's undoubtedly a capacity decrease if Streetlites step in to gradually replace B9s over the next few years. But then I find FSY's disregard for allocations barring the 120 and X routes baffling The 120 really needs the double decker capacity, it gets busy all along the route and especially on the city-Birley Spa Lane stretch - I wouldn't be surprised if that was the most profitable route in Sheffield. The Xs vary. The Doncaster ones need a double deck for the Peaks but Off -Peak, a single deck would suffice. so does 51 another busy route with high passenger numbers |
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