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Post by alemaster on Dec 21, 2014 13:48:27 GMT
www.sypte.co.uk/media.aspx?id=4236- Travel Information Centres to close - No more timetable leaflets - Shelter cleaning reduced in frequency to every 3 months - Reductions to cleaning resource in Interchanges - Job cuts The good news is that the current level of tendered bus services and concessionary travel is protected. Information provision will still be available online and the Travelmaster self service ticket kiosks will still be available.
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Post by duncan on Dec 21, 2014 16:34:25 GMT
www.sypte.co.uk/media.aspx?id=4236- Travel Information Centres to close - No more timetable leaflets - Shelter cleaning reduced in frequency to every 3 months - Reductions to cleaning resource in Interchanges - Job cuts The good news is that the current level of tendered bus services and concessionary travel is protected. Information provision will still be available online and the Travelmaster self service ticket kiosks will still be available. All these being cut whilst still funding concessionary travel on trams that is over and above the set standard. Backdoor subsidy? |
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Post by xtopher on Dec 21, 2014 16:51:25 GMT
The purpose of SYPTE dwindles yet further.
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Post by sweb on Dec 21, 2014 16:59:12 GMT
Does this make SYPTE the first to withdraw timetable leaflets or have any other PTE's done this or got it in the pipeline?
I think as part of this a review of tendered bus services should take place, not necessarily with the view to cut but to better use the funding, for example is there really any need for the A1 tender? I see it each weekday and most journeys are empty.
If the main source of information is going to be the website then the PTE really need to look to others close by, i think their website is pretty poor in comparison to some of the other PTEs and County Council websites, using Derbyshire as an example information re changes is released much more sooner than by the PTE, same for new timetables paired with a better timetable library when you know what services you need.
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Post by mrmoose on Dec 21, 2014 18:32:10 GMT
I do wonder why the PTE needs to exist in this day and age - The only benefits I can see is the travelmaster range of tickets that would probably not otherwise exist, and our rail fares are cheaper than most other areas in the country. Most the other services outside SY are still provided by the local authority instead. The decision to withdraw timetable leaflets is not a bad one - Provided the bus operators provide their own (as they do in other most areas of the country) - and make sure these are available in information racks within the Interchanges. Closing all the TIC's could be a problem, as the exist not so much to provide travel information - but to issue bus passes, travelmaster range, selling national express tickets etc. Presume there would still need to be a presence in the major interchanges to provide these services?
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Post by duncan on Dec 21, 2014 19:49:18 GMT
I do wonder why the PTE needs to exist in this day and age - The only benefits I can see is the travelmaster range of tickets that would probably not otherwise exist, and our rail fares are cheaper than most other areas in the country. Most the other services outside SY are still provided by the local authority instead. The decision to withdraw timetable leaflets is not a bad one - Provided the bus operators provide their own (as they do in other most areas of the country) - and make sure these are available in information racks within the Interchanges. Closing all the TIC's could be a problem, as the exist not so much to provide travel information - but to issue bus passes, travelmaster range, selling national express tickets etc. Presume there would still need to be a presence in the major interchanges to provide these services? As a follow on from this, do not the bus companies pay an amount to the PTE in return for them providing timetables etc? If that is the case will there be a reduction in this figure? |
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Post by duncan on Dec 21, 2014 19:52:04 GMT
Does this make SYPTE the first to withdraw timetable leaflets or have any other PTE's done this or got it in the pipeline? I think as part of this a review of tendered bus services should take place, not necessarily with the view to cut but to better use the funding, for example is there really any need for the A1 tender? I see it each weekday and most journeys are empty. If the main source of information is going to be the website then the PTE really need to look to others close by, i think their website is pretty poor in comparison to some of the other PTEs and County Council websites, using Derbyshire as an example information re changes is released much more sooner than by the PTE, same for new timetables paired with a better timetable library when you know what services you need. The main reason for the delays on SYPTE information is all the last minute adjustments to services, putting some of the mistakes right before they go live. If this is the case, is there not an argument that they get things wrong so very often they are possibly not very competent? |
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Post by dougie on Dec 21, 2014 21:39:14 GMT
Does this mean that we've seen the end of the Freedom Riders and their publicity stunts? Hard to justify free train travel at the moment, but even harder to justify it when the PTE can't even provide timetables!
sweb makes a good point about the A1 - is there need for five services an hour along Europa Link to Shepcote Lane? One thing for overbussing on routes like the 120, where both operators are taking commercial risks, but another when it's the PTE funding things.
Does that mean the end of grand projects like the "BRT" and the proposed new road under the M1 at Tinsley/ Meadowhall?
RIvelin loses it's service next month (haven't seen a replacement for the 64?), where'll be next? At least SCT taking the 31 on commercially during the daytime might save a couple of quid in PTE subsidies(?)
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Post by lysander on Dec 22, 2014 13:23:16 GMT
And the City Region , under devolution, has just been given even more powers over its local transport. I doubt any of the Government funded schemes will be under threat but one wonders what future SYPTE will have when the new arrangements come into force.
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Post by rich on Dec 23, 2014 13:16:34 GMT
Does this mean that we've seen the end of the Freedom Riders and their publicity stunts? Hard to justify free train travel at the moment, but even harder to justify it when the PTE can't even provide timetables! sweb makes a good point about the A1 - is there need for five services an hour along Europa Link to Shepcote Lane? One thing for overbussing on routes like the 120, where both operators are taking commercial risks, but another when it's the PTE funding things. Does that mean the end of grand projects like the "BRT" and the proposed new road under the M1 at Tinsley/ Meadowhall? RIvelin loses it's service next month (haven't seen a replacement for the 64?), where'll be next? At least SCT taking the 31 on commercially during the daytime might save a couple of quid in PTE subsidies(?) Free rail travel for ENCTS doesn't exist anymore its half fare. Personally on buses and trams I believe they should be paying a token amount say 20-40p per journey on these then it may save a little more for other things! Its not alot to pay compared with when they had to pay. |
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Post by lysander on Dec 24, 2014 8:56:56 GMT
It's Christmas time...so let's not start on that old chestnut again...but.... perhaps the country might look at the levels of State Pensions which people like me paid into for 40 plus years and then ask themselves why a free pass should be needed by even a few pensioners.
Merry Christmas!
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