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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 18:00:45 GMT
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Post by swfcforever on Jun 28, 2016 9:52:02 GMT
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Post by duncan on Jun 28, 2016 11:52:31 GMT
So its a case of we are alright, sod the rest of the city region. Typical |
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Post by lv426 on Jun 29, 2016 7:02:16 GMT
At Midland Station. So that will be excellent for a Park & Ride location i.e. for anyone NOT leaving or arriving at the city centre itself. (NOT!)
At least it's not at Victoria which would have been no use for anyone except resurrection enthusiasts.
What I noted from last night's TV report was something about the route diverging from the "fast" route (which is still via Tinsley, but now with no station at Meadowhall) and using the existing lines into Midland. Now, wasn't there something earlier about HS trains not being able to run over existing tracks? And I wonder what (if any) engineering is proposed for Sheffield to avoid the stupid bottleneck it already is, with frequent delays due to over-occupancy of platforms and conflicting movements particularly just to the north. Double-deck station, perchance?
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Post by DPL233 (33LUG) on Jun 29, 2016 17:47:33 GMT
At Midland Station. So that will be excellent for a Park & Ride location i.e. for anyone NOT leaving or arriving at the city centre itself. (NOT!) At least it's not at Victoria which would have been no use for anyone except resurrection enthusiasts. What I noted from last night's TV report was something about the route diverging from the "fast" route (which is still via Tinsley, but now with no station at Meadowhall) and using the existing lines into Midland. Now, wasn't there something earlier about HS trains not being able to run over existing tracks? And I wonder what (if any) engineering is proposed for Sheffield to avoid the stupid bottleneck it already is, with frequent delays due to over-occupancy of platforms and conflicting movements particularly just to the north. Double-deck station, perchance? Sure I've read somewhere that a double deck station wool have to be built, as the HS2 trains would be longer than the current platform lengths at Sheffield. |
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Post by dimtim on Jun 30, 2016 6:42:46 GMT
2 type of stock are proposed for HS2. Captive stock that are built to the European loading gauge - so are available 'off the shelf' & classic compatible that will be used for services that run on HS2 but continue on the existing network. Eg to Newcastle.
All other European high speed networks are incorporated into the existing networks usually using existing tracks to access city stations. Because we are looking to use European loading gauge stock this is not feasible.
Is it any wonder it's so expensive when the initial plan was to keep it separate & now needing 2 different types of stock!
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Post by lysander on Jun 30, 2016 10:12:38 GMT
At my age, I reckon I shall be up in heaven looking down at the results of the £billions expended on the system and regretting they haven't got smoke deflectors and double chimneys.  |
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Post by darnall42 on Jul 7, 2016 6:41:01 GMT
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Post by lysander on Jul 7, 2016 14:59:12 GMT
Having read the report it seems that apart from the £1 billion in savings, using the existing route from Clay X will avoid some engineering problems associated with "flood plains", geology, finding a way through and compulsory purchase of existing buildings in an already built up area and building a station on a viaduct ( although the Victorians did so with Victoria station!) The new proposed route using the eastern M18 option ...apart from some new housing...is said to be easier. Sheffield and perhaps Chesterfield will get enhanced services into London...Sheffield to Leeds will be speeded up and there is a possibility that a Parkway station will be built to serve the rest of SY and parts of WY. I must say in all the discussions I have never come across this new option before. The Sheffield Star/SCC favourite of using Victoria station was rejected on grounds of cost, time penalties and access for users....all of which had been pointed out to SCC by its critics...and, seemingly, ignored!  |
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Post by lysander on Sept 15, 2016 13:28:52 GMT
The current talk would suggest that the project embracing the spur from Birmingham to Leeds might be up for some serious reconsideration over costs, route and, indeed the very fundamental need for a route to Leeds. It has been suggested that neither Leeds nor Sheffield, combined, will generate the traffic Birmingham and Manchester can. Sheffield's "triumph" over the siting of the station appears to be pyrrhic given the realisation of its reduced services and very limited time saving.
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