Service 85 (Sheffield) (Read 1,054 times)

[busworld7736]

Does anyone know why TM Travel's evening and all day sunday service 85 doesn't go to Sheffield Interchange where as first 85 does go into Sheffield Interchange

[dougie]

Apr 2, 2017 9:48:31 GMT busworld7736 said:

Does anyone know why TM Travel's evening and all day sunday service 85 doesn't go to Sheffield Interchange where as first 85 does go into Sheffield Interchange

The First service from High Green via Grenoside hasn't to run to the Interchange in recent years - as it ran through to Ecclesall Road/ Carter Knowle then latterly through to Abbeydale Road/ Chancet Wood.

The tendered service replicated the daytime route as far as Arundel Gate (albeit with the diversion round Fox Hill), which made sense.

Then First chopped the 85 (with the new oddly timed 96 taking the Chancet Wood section, and the 85 extending to the Interchange to interwork with the 72 to Rotherham), but the tendered service didn't change at this time - it may even be that extending it to the Interchange would require an additional vehicle (which the PTE aren't going to fund in cash-strapped times, and TM aren't going to provide voluntarily, since the evening/ Sunday service is loss making)

[busworld7736]

Thanks Dougie i never knew the TM Travel operation was a loss making i catch the 0535 TM Travel 85 to work Monday to Friday and that used to be busy but has died down problem i think is first are in charge of the fares and also no one travels on buses in evening no more and are they withdrawing the 85 as i have seen it on anyother tread on this website that the 66 is going to run from Rotherham Interchange to Sheffield Interchange

[dougie]

Apr 2, 2017 10:08:20 GMT busworld7736 said:

Thanks Dougie i never knew the TM Travel operation was a loss making i catch the 0535 TM Travel 85 to work Monday to Friday and that used to be busy but has died down problem i think is first are in charge of the fares and also no one travels on buses in evening no more and are they withdrawing the 85 as i have seen it on anyother tread on this website that the 66 is going to run from Rotherham Interchange to Sheffield Interchange

The registrations for some services show out of date information - for example, I think that the 97 corridor in Sheffield still showed "97/97a" for years after it became the "97/98" - the 4 (Millhouses - City) still showed as running to Firth Park for a few years afterwards - there are sometimes rogue bits of information still shown on the registration that don't reflect the actual timetable.

[peggy]

Could it not be that the PTE charge for bus companies to use the interchange.

[duncan]

Apr 2, 2017 10:08:20 GMT busworld7736 said:

Thanks Dougie i never knew the TM Travel operation was a loss making i catch the 0535 TM Travel 85 to work Monday to Friday and that used to be busy but has died down problem i think is first are in charge of the fares and also no one travels on buses in evening no more and are they withdrawing the 85 as i have seen it on anyother tread on this website that the 66 is going to run from Rotherham Interchange to Sheffield Interchange

First have no say whatsoever over the fares charged on tendered services, that is a matter between the operator and the PTE.
The reason this and any other service is tendered is because they do not turn a profit.
The PTE then contract an operator to run it on their behalf as is their legal duty.

[busworld7736]

I heard a TM Travel driver say to one of the customers that first controlled the fares that''s why i thought First controlled fares on TM Travel 85

[The Captain]

Apr 13, 2017 15:56:02 GMT busworld7736 said:

I heard a TM Travel driver say to one of the customers that first controlled the fares that''s why i thought First controlled fares on TM Travel 85

First do not set the fares on routes operated with other operators.