July 2018 Service Changes (Read 4,944 times)

[duncan]

Jun 30, 2018 9:57:12 GMT micketh said:

Strange that they have published the 65 Buxton timetable when the tender process was not complete. They have only published the reduced High Peak journeys - anyone any news who, if anyone, has won this tender?

As I understand it, the tender was terminated at the request of High Peak buses and fell outside of the normal schedule for tenders. This means that the published timetable is "correct at the time of publishing" no doubt the updated timetable will be uploaded with the tendered journeys and operator details when the process is complete.
Also, remember it is TSY who have published this. only a fool believes anything they say or do

[dimtim]

There’s an application from Eric Bowers Coaches Leicester on this weeks listing

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/719074/np-2324-22-June-2018.pdf..pdf

Is this the new operator?

[swfcforever]

Jun 30, 2018 19:40:40 GMT dimtim said:

There’s an application from Eric Bowers Coaches Leicester on this weeks listing

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/719074/np-2324-22-June-2018.pdf..pdf

Is this the new operator?

High Peak Buses. It was renamed that from Bowers, when the merger with Trent happened.

[simonk82701]

According to Derbyshire's website. the timetable isn't yet available. I just hope the tender is sorted quickly and passengers given the service they deserve. The whole thing has been badly handled in my view. 


I don't know when the tender should have ended, but in my view no operator should be allowed to terminate a tender early, it should only be allowed at the end of the contractual period, un less for example a company becomes insolvent.

[duncan]

Jun 30, 2018 21:06:53 GMT simonk82701 said:

According to Derbyshire's website. the timetable isn't yet available. I just hope the tender is sorted quickly and passengers given the service they deserve. The whole thing has been badly handled in my view. 


I don't know when the tender should have ended, but in my view no operator should be allowed to terminate a tender early, it should only be allowed at the end of the contractual period, un less for example a company becomes insolvent.

waiting for an operator to go bust is never the best way to end a tendered service. By insisting on an operator being tied in to a contract would result in massive hikes in tenders being submitted as operators "Future proof" themselves. Using the same argument, should Virgin/Stagecoach have been forced to continue the East Coast rail franchise?

[duncan]

Jun 30, 2018 19:40:40 GMT dimtim said:

There’s an application from Eric Bowers Coaches Leicester on this weeks listing

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/719074/np-2324-22-June-2018.pdf..pdf

Is this the new operator?

No. Thats the service revision from High Peak buses. It states that it is a revision not a new registration.

[simonk82701]

Fair point regarding tenders prices going up, you're  correct. I hadn't thought of it in that way. However I think they perhaps should be asked to continue running the service as it is until a new operator or contractor can be found. Don't leave people panicking wondering if their bus will be replaced. In the event that the tender process isn't successful, then the service should be withdrawn giving passengers a minimum of two months notice so alternative arrangements can be made by people. Unless I'm mistaken (please correct me if I am) the new timetable has been published a month before a major change and the tender process for the replacement services is still ongoing. Worryingly short notice and people thinking can I get to work before to long? The transition process need to be smoother and better co-ordinated     

[alemaster]

Jun 22, 2018 16:13:07 GMT micketh said:

According to the High Peak Buses webpage the company will no longer run tendered services on the 65 - they will only operate 2 commercial journeys on the route in both directions during the daytime Monday - Saturday. It states that other tendered journeys will be re-tendered by the council. Any idea who, if anyone, will bid for these? TM Travel again or maybe Hulleys of Baslow? Hulleys now operate the 66 to Chesterfield or Baslow from Buxton and this could inter-link. Any ideas here?

www.highpeakbuses.com/future-service-changes

It does feel like the change from TM Travel to High Peak Bus co has killed the patronage on this route - its more expensive now - especially if you are getting a connecting bus in Sheffield, it has been less reliable and the timetable changes so it works from the Buxton end rather than the Sheffield end has made it less attractive too.

There has been lots of cuts to bus services in Derbyshire as a result of DCC funding cuts, hopefully we won't be losing more due to being run by a poor bus company!

[duncan]

Jun 30, 2018 22:02:37 GMT simonk82701 said:

Fair point regarding tenders prices going up, you're  correct. I hadn't thought of it in that way. However I think they perhaps should be asked to continue running the service as it is until a new operator or contractor can be found. Don't leave people panicking wondering if their bus will be replaced. In the event that the tender process isn't successful, then the service should be withdrawn giving passengers a minimum of two months notice so alternative arrangements can be made by people. Unless I'm mistaken (please correct me if I am) the new timetable has been published a month before a major change and the tender process for the replacement services is still ongoing. Worryingly short notice and people thinking can I get to work before to long? The transition process need to be smoother and better co-ordinated     

I am fairly sure a new operator will be in place by the time High Peak pull off the service. The organisation that is causing the uncertainty here is SYPTE (as usual) by publishing a timetable they know is not correct. It would not surprise me if they later try and take the credit for "saving" this DCC service.

[micketh]

Does anyone else feel that Hulleys may bid? They have lost other tendered work recently in other areas of the county and this could fit with their 66 service.

[adyjns]

Ive heard on the grape vine that chesterfield are going to be reducing the 90 service and going to be having a bus to sheffield via barrow hill is this true and if so when will this be happening

[adyjns]

Ive heard on the grape vine that chesterfield are going to be reducing the 90 service and going to be having a bus to sheffield via barrow hill is this true and when will this be happening

[mojoe44]

Jul 5, 2018 22:20:15 GMT adyjns said:

Ive heard on the grape vine that chesterfield are going to be reducing the 90 service and going to be having a bus to sheffield via barrow hill is this true and when will this be happening

If it is true, which I think is pretty unlikely, it certainly isn't part of the July or September changes.

[duncan]

Jul 6, 2018 7:37:43 GMT mojoe44 said:

Jul 5, 2018 22:20:15 GMT adyjns said:

Ive heard on the grape vine that chesterfield are going to be reducing the 90 service and going to be having a bus to sheffield via barrow hill is this true and when will this be happening

If it is true, which I think is pretty unlikely, it certainly isn't part of the July or September changes.

Sounds like yet more canteen gossip

[mojoe44]

Stagecoach have won the contract for the 65, and it will be operated by the Chesterfield depot. It will also operate via the new x17 route between Sheffield and meadowhall.