Parkgate NEW Park & Ride / Tram Stop (Read 709 times)

[rothlad]

Here are the plans for the new Parkgate Park & Ride scheme, showing the new car park location and new access road from the A6123 Aldwarke Lane. What remains to be seen is if the existing tram stop behind Boots is going to be moved to the new location or if this is an additional stop. The distance between the existing and new proposed stop is quite large, so I would assume it's the former rather than latter option.



PDF Document: moderngov.rotherham.gov.uk/documents/s105017/Appendix%202%20-%20RPA-ARP-00-RP-CH-0001%20ISSUE%2001%20-%20Parkgate%20Link%20Road%20-%20preferred%20highway%20alignment.pdf

[TC60054]

I'd like to think it'd be an extra stop rather than making any prospective passengers on the tram who are visiting Parkgate having to walk all the way back the way they've just come.

[duncan]

Jul 24, 2020 17:54:39 GMT TC60054 said:

I'd like to think it'd be an extra stop rather than making any prospective passengers on the tram who are visiting Parkgate having to walk all the way back the way they've just come.

Passengers visiting Parkgate? After the initial Novelty period that just does not happen. Why would people pass other similar retail parks to go to this one? Answer: They don't. It gets used by tram fanatics as a means of dumping their cars and going to Sheffield shopping and little else. [ based on my frequent observations].

[TC60054]

Jul 25, 2020 8:45:57 GMT duncan said:

Jul 24, 2020 17:54:39 GMT TC60054 said:

I'd like to think it'd be an extra stop rather than making any prospective passengers on the tram who are visiting Parkgate having to walk all the way back the way they've just come.

Passengers visiting Parkgate? After the initial Novelty period that just does not happen. Why would people pass other similar retail parks to go to this one? Answer: They don't. It gets used by tram fanatics as a means of dumping their cars and going to Sheffield shopping and little else. [ based on my frequent observations].

Here we go again...........

[alexander]

I get sick of saying this, the Parkgate route was chosen for its ease to test trams on a heavy rail line not the potential of the route. It seems to me that loadings on the trams in general are increasing much quicker than on the buses which is reflected in the tram timetables returning to pre lockdown levels.

[The Captain]

Jul 25, 2020 19:25:59 GMT alexander said:

I get sick of saying this, the Parkgate route was chosen for its ease to test trams on a heavy rail line not the potential of the route. It seems to me that loadings on the trams in general are increasing much quicker than on the buses which is reflected in the tram timetables returning to pre lockdown levels.

You've not seen any 120s on a 6 minute frequency yet then?.
There's busy, then there's bus busy.

[swfcforever]

Jul 25, 2020 8:45:57 GMT duncan said:

Jul 24, 2020 17:54:39 GMT TC60054 said:

I'd like to think it'd be an extra stop rather than making any prospective passengers on the tram who are visiting Parkgate having to walk all the way back the way they've just come.

Passengers visiting Parkgate? After the initial Novelty period that just does not happen. Why would people pass other similar retail parks to go to this one? Answer: They don't. It gets used by tram fanatics as a means of dumping their cars and going to Sheffield shopping and little else. [ based on my frequent observations].

My frequent observations are more regular and there are quite a few commuters who use the tram train-regulars. There are shoppers going to parkgate, yes I admit there needs to be more, but it needs to be built up.

Personally it would be nice if it was an extra stop, but perhaps it would be too close together for the heavy rail side

[duncan]

Jul 25, 2020 20:44:17 GMT The Captain said:

Jul 25, 2020 19:25:59 GMT alexander said:

I get sick of saying this, the Parkgate route was chosen for its ease to test trams on a heavy rail line not the potential of the route. It seems to me that loadings on the trams in general are increasing much quicker than on the buses which is reflected in the tram timetables returning to pre lockdown levels.

You've not seen any 120s on a 6 minute frequency yet then?.
There's busy, then there's bus busy.

It all depends what you want to see ....

[swfcforever]

Jul 26, 2020 6:19:43 GMT duncan said:

Jul 25, 2020 20:44:17 GMT The Captain said:

You've not seen any 120s on a 6 minute frequency yet then?.
There's busy, then there's bus busy.

It all depends what you want to see ....

Exactly. People see things differently

[rothlad]

Jul 24, 2020 17:54:39 GMT TC60054 said:

I'd like to think it'd be an extra stop rather than making any prospective passengers on the tram who are visiting Parkgate having to walk all the way back the way they've just come.

You'd think so given the distance, but given the lack of mention regarding the previous stop it does remain questionable. Maybe now is the right time to also look at providing a fully integrated transport hub at Parkgate, with potential for heavy rail too.