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Post by lysander on Sept 1, 2013 18:46:10 GMT
That's the headline in the Railway Mag. The new regulations on inter-operability for disabled passenger mean the 142 units are deemed unsuitable for modification. The 143 and 144 units are also likely to go. What good news for this old bloke who has complained about them for years!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 18:47:53 GMT
About time too
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Post by elliotwatersoncoach on Aug 4, 2014 21:25:56 GMT
The breaks are just too bad its like a bus without any tyres but on tracks there no good the 158,321,333 should replace them
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 23:22:54 GMT
158,321,333 should replace them It's alright saying what should replace them but that stock has to come from somewhere.
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Post by dimtim on Aug 9, 2014 20:13:48 GMT
Don't hold your breath!
Electrification to Sheffield was stated to be in CP5(by 2019) but already now 2020 & that's with 5 years to go.
If that & further electrification schemes slip further they will still be needed until the wires appear for replacement stock to become available.
Easy to grant an exemption!
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Post by lysander on Aug 10, 2014 7:57:15 GMT
Oh dear!
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Post by alemaster on Aug 30, 2014 12:05:16 GMT
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Post by xtopher on Aug 30, 2014 14:46:18 GMT
Anything that annoys lysander is a good news story in my book ...
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Post by sweb on Aug 30, 2014 17:11:06 GMT
I believe Porterbrook who own the 143s and 144s have published a proposal for modernisation. Not seen any proposals for the 142s yet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 21:19:55 GMT
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Post by woah on Dec 3, 2014 22:20:22 GMT
No dates mentioned but you'd hope they want them to be ready for 2019 - we can only wait and see... At least there is now some positive news about it instead of suggestion that they will try and modify the horrid things!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 23:07:57 GMT
Well hopefully a reputable operator will get Northern Rail franchise anyway, I think it is highly likely that someone else will and not the current operators.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 0:01:09 GMT
Bidders will be encouraged to replace the outdated Pacer trains with rolling stock fit for the 21st century, while a 20 per cent increase in capacity is also sought. Looks like it's only a might The Chancellor told MPs that “replacing the ancient and unpopular pacer carriages with new and modern trains” would be part of the new northern and transpennine rail franchises due to come into force in 2016. But the detailed Treasury documents released alongside the statement suggest the Government will only “encourage bidders to replace the outdated pacer trains” rather than make it a requirement of the companies awarded the franchises which cover the bulk of local services in the region.
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Post by lysander on Dec 5, 2014 9:13:35 GMT
I am not holding my breath. There's another election due in 5 Months time and whoever wins looks certain to be making more cuts in everything. Northern's franchise is already the most heavily subsidised so I can't see the Exchequer being too willing to let the DfT approve a purchase of new stock. We shall just have to wait and see...meanwhile, whatever happened to the lot who wanted to preserve a nodding donkey?
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Post by lv426 on Dec 5, 2014 10:09:16 GMT
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