sweb
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Post by sweb on Dec 5, 2014 15:48:30 GMT
Whilst I'm sure we all agree the sooner they go the better there is a potential issue, how are the replacements going to be funded? As Lysander has mentioned it is the most heavily subsidised franchise and there have been numerous suggestions that the new franchise holder will have to cut costs and will gain a reduced subsidy, on that basis that implies to keep the cost of the franchise down any net difference between the cost of new stock and the nodding donkeys will be from cuts elsewhere
That is assuming new and modern is not meaning replacing pacers to some degree with 'refurbished' stock freed up by electrification or investment elsewhere in the country (i.e. more sprinters).
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Post by zoidberg on Jun 25, 2015 20:33:25 GMT
After today announcement, the Pacers could be here a bit longer... At least we now know where the HS2 money is coming from.
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darnall42
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Invasion Of The Streetshites
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Post by darnall42 on Jun 27, 2015 17:45:27 GMT
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Post by TC60054 on Jun 29, 2015 10:10:11 GMT
I think they look far better than current inside however I'm not too keen on the livery or the internal PIS tbh.
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vwd14
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Post by vwd14 on Jul 4, 2015 18:51:14 GMT
They do look nice inside, but at the end of the day, you can put lipstick on a pig, but a pig will always remain a pig.
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Post by cheesystig on Jul 6, 2015 14:31:42 GMT
the pacer refurb program only covers the 143 and 144 due to the 142 having serious corrosion problems under the skin. Just call it the Leyland national strikes back for the last time.
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