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Post by ady1977 on Jun 1, 2020 12:57:59 GMT
has chesterfield withdrawn all there darts as service 90 has all e200s on today and its normaly run by the darts they have wasnt sure now the x1 isnt running means extra buses for other routes
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Post by alemaster on Jun 3, 2020 23:10:57 GMT
Also of note, I expect the First 57 Sheffield to Stocksbridge tendered service to be withdrawn shortly, given Stagecoach are now operating the commercial 57/57A in the evenings/Sundays over the same route. With regards the Stocksbridge changes, first it should be remembered this is a change to the emergency Covid-19 service/timetables, so it doesn't really make sense to compare with the service pre-covid nor assume this will be how the network will look post covid when demand is much higher (I suspect a network review in the near future). To summarise.... Up to 31st May 57 - suspended 58 - amended route SL1 - running every 120 minutes SL1a - running every 120 minutes 23/23a (to Barnsley/Peniston) - suspended 201 (to Chapeltown) - normal school holiday timetable from 1st June First 57 - restored Mon-Sat, early mornings and evenings only NEW Stagecoach 57 - runs hourly, daytime only, similar route to old 57 NEW Stagecoach 57a - runs hourly all day, similar route to old SL1 inc one way round loop Stagecoach 58 - returned to normal route and timetable SL1/ SL1a - withdrawn 23/23a - reinstated 201 - continues as before Basically before Stocksbridge had an hourly service (Sl1 and Sl1a combined) to Middlewood tram terminus to connect with the Yellow route tram Now Stocksbridge has a half hourly service (57 and 57a combined) to Hillsborough Interchange to connect with a choice of many different tram and bus routes. For travel to Hillsborough/City this is an improvement. The big complaint really is for local traffic within Stocksbridge - those that live on the loop can travel to the shops etc in Stocksbridge town centre but cannot get back as buses only run one way around the loop. Whilst it will be interesting to see what longer term changes to the network are made, in the shorter term the next anticipated increase in demand will be 15th June when all shops can open (with social distancing measures) and some kids go back to school and I wonder if some further tweaks to these bus services will be made then. |
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Post by alemaster on Jun 3, 2020 23:16:21 GMT
Does anyone else find it a bit odd that the X2 has been withdrawn? It served both hospitals and was lurched to great fanfare, also surprised at the SL1/A that has run for years and I guess encouraged tram use? X2 has simply reverted back to the normal 2. It still runs Barnsley to Sheffield on an hourly frequency. I don't think the usage of the extension to Hallamshire Hospital was enough to justify the extra resource and the limited stop sections didn't really bring that much benefit to the journey, just caused confusion and complaints. As far as the SL1/SL1a being replaced by the 57/57a/58, buses are simply making the connection with tram at Hillsborough Interchange instead of Middlewood, a location with double the number of trams plus various buses. It isn't clear whether this arrangement is permanent or not. |
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Post by alemaster on Jun 11, 2020 13:27:50 GMT
Stagecoach SL1/SL1a returns on 15th June to supplement capacity on the 57/57a/58 and to restore some missing local links.
Powells 6 increases to every 40 minutes from 15th June.
First are increasing their Sunday services from 21st June.
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Post by dougie on Jun 14, 2020 9:50:59 GMT
That reads to me as if there's going to be a bus every eight minutes on the shared section from Crosspool into town (whereas presumably someone has accidentally copied the information from the line above - same as they did when they gave the impression that the 9 to Darnall would be every 30 minutes - i.e. better than the regular pre-Covid frequency - because they'd copied the information from the Ecclesfield - Crystal Peaks 8 from the row above - be careful with spreadsheets!)
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Post by alemaster on Jun 14, 2020 18:23:48 GMT
That reads to me as if there's going to be a bus every eight minutes on the shared section from Crosspool into town (whereas presumably someone has accidentally copied the information from the line above - same as they did when they gave the impression that the 9 to Darnall would be every 30 minutes - i.e. better than the regular pre-Covid frequency - because they'd copied the information from the Ecclesfield - Crystal Peaks 8 from the row above - be careful with spreadsheets!) that is unfortunate.. isn't the 51a a once a day school variation that isn't currently running? |
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Post by swfcforever on Jun 14, 2020 19:55:11 GMT
That reads to me as if there's going to be a bus every eight minutes on the shared section from Crosspool into town (whereas presumably someone has accidentally copied the information from the line above - same as they did when they gave the impression that the 9 to Darnall would be every 30 minutes - i.e. better than the regular pre-Covid frequency - because they'd copied the information from the Ecclesfield - Crystal Peaks 8 from the row above - be careful with spreadsheets!) that is unfortunate.. isn't the 51a a once a day school variation that isn't currently running? Yep |
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Post by simonk82701 on Jun 21, 2020 8:14:40 GMT
Just out of interest, does anyone know if First are planning to increase their Sunday services to anything like normal levels anytime soon? I know it's quieter but to finish services in Sheffield on a Sunday evening around 7pm when Stagecoach Yorkshire are running most of theirs does seem a little strange to me. Nottingham city transport are returning to their normal time timbales from tomorrow minus N services. Yet a city like Sheffield still has early finishes by First on Sunday, even on key services. I guess things may have to start to be changed when the pubs open. mind you Stagecoach East Midlands last services are still finishing very early 7 days a week. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come, even when Covid settles down? Some service such as 36, x54 and x55 are still totally suspended. I wonder if we will ever see them again?
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Post by micketh on Jun 21, 2020 15:51:53 GMT
36 service provides a valuable link to the Kimberworth Park area, also from Meadowhall (the old 43) so many will wish this to recommence esp as things really get back to normal from September we assume at the moment.
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Post by TC60054 on Jun 21, 2020 16:19:43 GMT
Just out of interest, does anyone know if First are planning to increase their Sunday services to anything like normal levels anytime soon? I know it's quieter but to finish services in Sheffield on a Sunday evening around 7pm when Stagecoach Yorkshire are running most of theirs does seem a little strange to me. Nottingham city transport are returning to their normal time timbales from tomorrow minus N services. Yet a city like Sheffield still has early finishes by First on Sunday, even on key services. I guess things may have to start to be changed when the pubs open. mind you Stagecoach East Midlands last services are still finishing very early 7 days a week. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come, even when Covid settles down? Some service such as 36, x54 and x55 are still totally suspended. I wonder if we will ever see them again? There are some changes to Sunday service levels from today, primarily increasing hourly frequencies to half-hourly on key services. travelsouthyorkshire.com/en-GB/LandingPage/service-changes |
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Post by swfcforever on Jun 22, 2020 9:50:48 GMT
36 service provides a valuable link to the Kimberworth Park area, also from Meadowhall (the old 43) so many will wish this to recommence esp as things really get back to normal from September we assume at the moment. 137 is covering beween Kimberworth Park and Meadowhall at the moment. Its very rarely used between Meadowhall and Sheffield nowadays. I think the 18 might be diverted from Upwell Street via Margate Drive, then Holywell Road, through estate and Jenkin Road to cover the 36 |
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Post by rothlad on Jun 22, 2020 11:29:45 GMT
Just out of interest, does anyone know if First are planning to increase their Sunday services to anything like normal levels anytime soon? I know it's quieter but to finish services in Sheffield on a Sunday evening around 7pm when Stagecoach Yorkshire are running most of theirs does seem a little strange to me. Nottingham city transport are returning to their normal time timbales from tomorrow minus N services. Yet a city like Sheffield still has early finishes by First on Sunday, even on key services. I guess things may have to start to be changed when the pubs open. mind you Stagecoach East Midlands last services are still finishing very early 7 days a week. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come, even when Covid settles down? Some service such as 36, x54 and x55 are still totally suspended. I wonder if we will ever see them again? Stipulation of the new funding from DfT is that from 5 July all operators have to be running 100% of their pre-Covid mileage. However, this is mileage and not routes. Some routes will be making a full return such as the 57 Sheffield to Stocksbridge service, with the SL1/SL1A being ramped up to a 15 minute service to co-ordinate with Yellow trams at Middlewood. However, there will be some losses and some routes won't be making a return. |
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Post by micketh on Jun 22, 2020 11:37:13 GMT
36 service provides a valuable link to the Kimberworth Park area, also from Meadowhall (the old 43) so many will wish this to recommence esp as things really get back to normal from September we assume at the moment. 137 is covering beween Kimberworth Park and Meadowhall at the moment. Its very rarely used between Meadowhall and Sheffield nowadays. I think the 18 might be diverted from Upwell Street via Margate Drive, then Holywell Road, through estate and Jenkin Road to cover the 36 Unfortunately, the 137 only travels through up to Kimberworth and then onto Meadowhall Road - the 36 went around Kimberworth Park and Greasborough areas (a very different route), as per former 43 and 44 services. |
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Post by simonk82701 on Jun 22, 2020 17:14:20 GMT
The 36 has always seemed busy to me when I have used it. Admittedly that is at school time as I sometimes meet my mum who works at a school. Not sure what it's like the rest of the time!
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