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Post by crossscythe on Sept 11, 2023 16:51:29 GMT
why didnt they transfer it to holbrook as they have the hybrids also the new e400s that are coming aswell am sure some of the chesterfield routes could be distrebuted else where Stagecoach want rid of the route, possibly because the Sheffield end competes with some already established services, such as the 30 and 120. There are only 6 MMCs scheduled for delivery and these will be assigned to route 25. Considering how long Hulley's have been around, they seem to be a surprising rising star in the industry. They are on good terms with Derbyshire CC, who are likely to tender some, if not all of these services. Hulley's tend not to assign a specific bus type to a specific route, so it could be an Evolution or a 200 MMC or even a Wright Eclipse B7! |
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Post by ady1977 on Sept 11, 2023 18:00:54 GMT
they messed up years ago the 80 only used to go to barrow hill it used to go through the brimington estate aswell and it was always busy but when stagecoach took over they messed everything up same at the old 55/56 that used to get busy aswell then they scrapped that to and now theres only the 90 to staveley
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Post by The Captain on Sept 11, 2023 20:03:03 GMT
why didnt they transfer it to holbrook as they have the hybrids also the new e400s that are coming aswell am sure some of the chesterfield routes could be distrebuted else where Holbrooks got enough work and not enough drivers, that's why there is agency staff in just like TM Travel. Apart from that its another fresh air route. |
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Post by DoubleN on Sept 11, 2023 20:53:31 GMT
why didnt they transfer it to holbrook as they have the hybrids also the new e400s that are coming aswell am sure some of the chesterfield routes could be distrebuted else where Stagecoach want rid of the route, possibly because the Sheffield end competes with some already established services, such as the 30 and 120. There are only 6 MMCs scheduled for delivery and these will be assigned to route 25. Considering how long Hulley's have been around, they seem to be a surprising rising star in the industry. They are on good terms with Derbyshire CC, who are likely to tender some, if not all of these services. Hulley's tend not to assign a specific bus type to a specific route, so it could be an Evolution or a 200 MMC or even a Wright Eclipse B7! Holbrook has 20 E400MMCs on order. |
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Post by crossscythe on Sept 11, 2023 22:02:13 GMT
Stagecoach want rid of the route, possibly because the Sheffield end competes with some already established services, such as the 30 and 120. There are only 6 MMCs scheduled for delivery and these will be assigned to route 25. Considering how long Hulley's have been around, they seem to be a surprising rising star in the industry. They are on good terms with Derbyshire CC, who are likely to tender some, if not all of these services. Hulley's tend not to assign a specific bus type to a specific route, so it could be an Evolution or a 200 MMC or even a Wright Eclipse B7! Holbrook has 20 E400MMCs on order. Even better! |
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Post by alemaster on Sept 12, 2023 14:03:49 GMT
Stagecoach want rid of the route, possibly because the Sheffield end competes with some already established services, such as the 30 and 120. There are only 6 MMCs scheduled for delivery and these will be assigned to route 25. Considering how long Hulley's have been around, they seem to be a surprising rising star in the industry. They are on good terms with Derbyshire CC, who are likely to tender some, if not all of these services. Hulley's tend not to assign a specific bus type to a specific route, so it could be an Evolution or a 200 MMC or even a Wright Eclipse B7! Holbrook has 20 E400MMCs on order. I was going to say - I thought more E400MMCs were ordered for Holbrook and they were for the 120, with the intention of cascading the hybrids onto the 25. |
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Post by The Captain on Sept 12, 2023 15:32:00 GMT
Holbrook has 20 E400MMCs on order. I was going to say - I thought more E400MMCs were ordered for Holbrook and they were for the 120, with the intention of cascading the hybrids onto the 25. Probably be split between 52/120s with Hybrids dropping onto 7/25s until replacements are found for the remaining ones. Once all the MMCs go it could get interesting on the 6/10s if a E200 breaks down or they are short. |
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Post by alemaster on Sept 13, 2023 12:06:46 GMT
Stagecoach Chesterfield buses that run into South Yorkshire - there are changes from 29 October affecting routes 43/43a/44, 50/50a and X17 plus of course the 80/80a already mentioned which will be replaced by a Hulleys 80/80a Holymoorside-Crystal Peaks service.
No word on Stagecoach services from South Yorkshire depots yet, nor of any changes from TM Travel, First etc. Most of these changes are likely to be driven by SYMCA cuts to tendered evening/Sunday services and I believe those contracts have only just been awarded so there is probably much to be finalised before any public announcement.
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Post by crossscythe on Sept 13, 2023 13:49:18 GMT
Stagecoach Chesterfield buses that run into South Yorkshire - there are changes from 29 October affecting routes 43/43a/44, 50/50a and X17 plus of course the 80/80a already mentioned which will be replaced by a Hulleys 80/80a Holymoorside-Crystal Peaks service. No word on Stagecoach services from South Yorkshire depots yet, nor of any changes from TM Travel, First etc. Most of these changes are likely to be driven by SYMCA cuts to tendered evening/Sunday services and I believe those contracts have only just been awarded so there is probably much to be finalised before any public announcement. As a result of the September changes, some X17s now extend to Walton. It's proving a very popular route overall, the Meadowhall end of the network is surprisingly busy. |
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Post by ady1977 on Sept 13, 2023 14:10:39 GMT
i know the 50/50a and 80/80a interwork with the 90 on a sunday and the 90 is the 2b on a week night
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Post by alemaster on Sept 13, 2023 17:43:12 GMT
Stagecoach Chesterfield from 29 October- the X17 gains an hourly evening service between Sheffield and Chesterfield - the 43 will have a more even frequency Mon-Sat daytime (every 30 mins rather than every 20/40) - the 43a is a new hourly service running the same way as the 43 from Sheffield to Meadowhead then to Lowedges - the 44 sees the evening and Sunday service extended beyond Dronfield to Chesterfield, funded by Derbyshire County Council. - The 50/50a has a route change plus more buses will run the full route to Chesterfield. There will also be extra Sunday morning buses funded by Derbyshire County Council. - The 80/80a, which was making a loss having not recovered patronage sufficiently after Covid, is withdrawn and partially replaced by a new Hulleys of Baslow service 80/80a. Also in Chesterfield buses 2/2a/2b and 25A are withdrawn and there are changes to the 1,1a,5,25,39,51,51a,54,54a,74,74a,77,77a,90,90a,90b. There are also minor timetable changes to the 15 and 16. bustimes.org/licences/PC1118599Hulleys of Baslow from 29 October 2023:48/49 - these will be taken over by another Operator 55 - between Chesterfield Town Centre and the Royal Hospital buses will operate via Spital and Hady, instead of Chesterfield Rail Station 63 - the 1445 Chesterfield to Matlock will depart 1430 and run 15 minutes earlier throughout 80/80a/X80 - partially replacing Stagecoach Yorkshire services 80/80a and our service 84, these will run between Holymoorside and Crystal Peaks via Chesterfield Town Centre, direct to the Royal Hospital then via Brimington Common, Staveley, Nether Handley, Eckington, Renishaw, Spinkhill, High Moor and Killamarsh then direct via Moss Way to Crystal Peaks, giving much faster journeys between Killamarsh and Chesterfield/Crystal Peaks, and reinstating links between Eckington and Staveley/Killamarsh, and Holymoorside to the Royal Hospital. Evening and Sunday journeys will run as 80a via Woodthorpe and Mastin Moor instead of Eckington and will extend to and from Bakewell (the evening service between Bakewell and Matlock now provided by trentbarton Service 6.1); X80 will provide an additional peak hour journey between Killamarsh, Eckington and Chesterfield running non-stop from Staveley via Tapton; timings between Chesterfield and Holymoorside are only slightly changed - combined with Service 170 buses will run approximately every 30 minutes down Chatsworth Road from Storrs Road to West Bars; also giving a better connection for Holymoorside residents wanting to travel to Bakewell. www.facebook.com/hulleys1921No news of South Yorkshire changes yet, including the savage further SYMCA cuts to evening and Sunday services anticipated.
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Post by chapeltowncallum on Sept 13, 2023 18:04:02 GMT
Any idea as to route change for the 50/50a please
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Post by ady1977 on Sept 13, 2023 18:29:53 GMT
it shows on the link that the new 90 service will be running to creswell if thats right
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Post by mojoe44 on Sept 13, 2023 18:30:30 GMT
Any idea as to route change for the 50/50a please "Timetable revised to improve punctuality. Service 50 will be extended from Birk Hill Estate to Chesterfield on Monday to Saturday daytimes. The 50 will run via West Street instead of Ravencar Road (service 50a provides an alternative) and via Sheffield Road instead of Windmill Greenway (service 120 provides an alternative). In Old Whittington, service 50a will operate direct via High Street rather than Burnbridge Road, Ashcroft Drive and Station Lane to reduce journey times and to give parts of High Street a service. Additional early Sunday morning journeys introduced, funded by DCC BSIP. Following driver feedback, inbound timing point at Whittington Moor changed to Pro Act Stadium." 25 going back to half hourly, 25a withdrawn and replaced with full 25. |
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Post by teapot42 on Sept 13, 2023 19:46:18 GMT
Stagecoach Chesterfield from 29 October- the X17 gains an hourly evening service between Sheffield and Chesterfield - the 43 will have a more even frequency Mon-Sat daytime (every 30 mins rather than every 20/40) - the 43a is a new hourly service running the same way as the 43 from Sheffield to Meadowhead then to Lowedges - the 44 sees the evening and Sunday service extended beyond Dronfield to Chesterfield, funded by Derbyshire County Council. - The 50/50a has a route change plus more buses will run the full route to Chesterfield. There will also be extra Sunday morning buses funded by Derbyshire County Council. - The 80/80a, which was making a loss having not recovered patronage sufficiently after Covid, is withdrawn and partially replaced by a new Hulleys of Baslow service 80/80a. Also in Chesterfield buses 2/2a/2b and 25A are withdrawn and there are changes to the 1,1a,5,25,39,51,51a,54,54a,74,74a,77,77a,90,90a,90b. There are also minor timetable changes to the 15 and 16. bustimes.org/licences/PC1118599
I don't suppose you know when more detail of these changes will come out?
I'm particularly concerned about the withdrawal of the 2/2A as nothing seems planned to replace most of the route. Green Farm will get an extension of the 5, but Walton, Boythorpe, Brampton and Ashgate aren't mentioned on any other service.
It looks like the 90b will replace the 2b - I only hope it follows the 'normal' 90 route rather than the daft current arrangement of the 2b avoiding the local supermarket and therefore being of little use unless you want to go to the town centre.
I saw elsewhere mention of the X17 being extended to Walton - is this just the evening one? Day-time they extend to Matlock unless one is being re-routed?
Presumably the 43a is to replace the Sheffield 25, but why is it being run by Chesterfield depot? Personally, I'd reduce the through 43 to once and hour, but put on an express bus that runs via Dunston and Dronfield. More use to more people.
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