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Post by manontheinside on Mar 22, 2008 9:08:57 GMT
Something like that. I don't think in pre-Stagecoach days Frank could muster up anything at less than about 3 months notice!
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Post by foxydebs on Mar 22, 2008 10:26:05 GMT
Something like that. I don't think in pre-Stagecoach days Frank could muster up anything at less than about 3 months notice! lol, take it you were not a fan of frank's then. Was that also in tram pre stagecoach days you were refering to regarding tram replacement blinds. |
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Post by manontheinside on Mar 23, 2008 10:14:54 GMT
I wasn't his biggest fan at a number of levels, although you had to repsect him for holding on. But business wasn't apparently his strong point! There also always seemed to be a complex with YTC that they were always second to Mainline locally, something that still seems to be apparent in some employees now despite a change in ownership. I doubt you'll see Tesco workers so pent up about their industry!
When it was SYSL they used Mainline quite openly and publicly, but even Stagecoach in their early days did too. Indeed, up to buying YT, there was much work, albeit often just on a 'ticket acceptance' basis rather than replacement.
Just seems a little tragic when the tram fails that there's so much 'pride' involved that someone would rather use a couple of old B10Ms and a Solo to replace the tram rather than accepting help with - say - deckers. Surely the overall image of public transport is what counts in the end. And pride it is said, goes before a fall.
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Post by Tom B on Mar 23, 2008 14:03:42 GMT
I'm not up on such things but, lets say the tram is suspended early one morning for some reason, it's half an hour to the morning peak and a replacement bus must be organised. Is it easier to ring up Stagecoach bus division and say "Get us some buses now, we'll sort out the interdepartmental money transfer in a bit", rather than ringing up First, even though the latter may have bigger buses, would the financials not need to be sorted etc? Or is there some sort of agreement that such things can be arranged and the invoicing will happen later? Also, one would imagine that getting a set of drivers for said buses is difficult - phone calls to rest day staff and offers of overtime?
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Post by manontheinside on Mar 24, 2008 18:05:28 GMT
In that situation, i think its perfectly reasonable to assume that any company would struggle to find buses and drivers at short notice. However, for the sake of a few quid, surely it would be more practical to send for the quickest solution, even if part and part.
All thats been said is it seems bonkers to request something from Chesterfield when there are closer options.
If passengers come first, then surely territoriality is of no consequence in the event.
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Post by foxydebs on Mar 25, 2008 1:06:39 GMT
In that situation, i think its perfectly reasonable to assume that any company would struggle to find buses and drivers at short notice. However, for the sake of a few quid, surely it would be more practical to send for the quickest solution, even if part and part. All thats been said is it seems bonkers to request something from Chesterfield when there are closer options. If passengers come first, then surely territoriality is of no consequence in the event. would they not use eccelsfield vehicles like what happened a few sundays ago, eccelsfield drivers and buses were used. I suppose they could always use holbrook tø if needed. |
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Post by jswallow on Mar 25, 2008 13:27:40 GMT
Yes - it's no problem finding the vehicles, especially if it's a time of a small run-out (e.g. Sundays or evening). The problem though is where do the drivers come from at such short notice? The drivers will largely be home enjoying their time off apart from an odd couple of spare turns here and there.
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Post by busman3 on Mar 25, 2008 17:51:13 GMT
thats why the then small companites like yorkshire terrier always did well with emergancey rail jobs they had the managers who could drive so they did the first few hours until they could get the drivers in or to stay behind .
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Post by rich on Mar 25, 2008 22:36:36 GMT
thats why the then small companites like yorkshire terrier always did well with emergancey rail jobs they had the managers who could drive so they did the first few hours until they could get the drivers in or to stay behind . They also have a few reserve drivers already at the depot. |
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Post by manontheinside on Mar 29, 2008 9:57:08 GMT
But thats the point. Rather than worrying about 'image', would it not be better to hire one from Ecclesfield, one from Holbrook, one from FSY at OG, one from TM etc etc to provide the quickest response and best service.
In the end, people will judge the tram on its ability to deal with problems, not the colour ofthe bus that turns up to replace it!
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Post by foxydebs on Mar 30, 2008 11:53:57 GMT
thats why the then small companites like yorkshire terrier always did well with emergancey rail jobs they had the managers who could drive so they did the first few hours until they could get the drivers in or to stay behind . Managers were out driving the other sunday, one of our supervisors has got a pcv licence so he was out driving too. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2008 7:29:03 GMT
Is 'Private Charter' still on blinds/displays these days?
I can remember seeing buses on hire to private parties back in the days of SYT,
mostly the better Fastline ones displaying 'private charter'.
Do the bus companies still do this sort of thing these days?
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Post by tango2 on Apr 21, 2008 12:10:01 GMT
Is 'Private Charter' still on blinds/displays these days? I can remember seeing buses on hire to private parties back in the days of SYT, mostly the better Fastline ones displaying 'private charter'. Do the bus companies still do this sort of thing these days? Its just on as on Hanover dispays as well,special,football,school service,inter site school service,rail replacement and of course the one that displays Next stop Lapland. |
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Post by captainsharpe1 on Apr 21, 2008 17:09:52 GMT
Sheffield Omnibus has Penistone on theirs. shame we didnt put the ex blackpool atlanteans that came from liverline on the X39 then we could have sent them back for summer season as open top skips. utter cxxx.  |
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Post by dragonara on Apr 22, 2008 20:56:04 GMT
Shafton depot did have a bus that said excursion on the blind that confused a lot of people when it was out n about. I think another one had destination skipped or something similar on it and quite a few passengers thought it was going to skipsea.
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