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Post by lysander on Mar 24, 2011 14:26:35 GMT
It's not quite the announcement that was widely expected but £150,000 toward planning etc. shows the project is still alive.
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Post by atlantean on Mar 24, 2011 19:20:00 GMT
It was reported on Look North that the £150,000 is towards (another) feasibility study.
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Post by transit on Mar 24, 2011 20:42:30 GMT
It was reported on Look North that the £150,000 is towards (another) feasibility study. ... yes , not exactly cut and dried yet , as the "feasibility study" would have to be approved before any further developments go ahead
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Post by andyrad on Mar 25, 2011 9:44:56 GMT
all these studys! why cant they just get on with it?
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Post by barrycygnetbus on Mar 25, 2011 10:07:57 GMT
Why not just scrap it and put the money to a better use, like saving the Bus Services we are losing. The trouble is people have big pipe dream. It was not long ago we had Leeds wanting trolley buses and that get scrapped.
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Post by lysander on Mar 25, 2011 11:02:29 GMT
Why scrap something which isn't a short term solution to a problem? Buses have just one advantage...they are more flexible than trams but eat up fuel and, arguably, roads; create pollution and are subject to more delays if roads are busy!....they are also a pain in the **** to other road users!
According to the Star the Minister has said the Government is committed to the trial, that funds are available and that the Government will pick up the bill for vehicles and electrification. The £150,000 is toward further investigations to ensure the vehicles are safe to run on both Supertram and train tracks. The scheme could be up and running by 2014.
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Post by foxydebs on Mar 25, 2011 11:52:22 GMT
Why not just scrap it and put the money to a better use, like saving the Bus Services we are losing. The trouble is people have big pipe dream. It was not long ago we had Leeds wanting trolley buses and that get scrapped. Or why not scrap it and put the money towards extra trams or extending the current tram network?
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Post by barrycygnetbus on Mar 25, 2011 12:19:06 GMT
Why not just scrap it and put the money to a better use, like saving the Bus Services we are losing. The trouble is people have big pipe dream. It was not long ago we had Leeds wanting trolley buses and that get scrapped. Or why not scrap it and put the money towards extra trams or extending the current tram network? True, like they have done in Manchester i believe.
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Post by barrycygnetbus on Mar 25, 2011 12:22:53 GMT
Why scrap something which isn't a short term solution to a problem? Buses have just one advantage...they are more flexible than trams but eat up fuel and, arguably, roads; create pollution and are subject to more delays if roads are busy!....they are also a pain in the **** to other road users! According to the Star the Minister has said the Government is committed to the trial, that funds are available and that the Government will pick up the bill for vehicles and electrification. The £150,000 is toward further investigations to ensure the vehicles are safe to run on both Supertram and train tracks. The scheme could be up and running by 2014. Of course we believe everything that we read in the Star or what a minister says. Of course they were committed to the Trolley Bus system in Leeds and when it that going to start, never. As for it been up and running by 2014, a pipe dream. I will not be at the front of the queue for the first one does not to turn up. If they were so committed to it the go ahead would have been given yesterday.
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Post by tmt on Mar 26, 2011 19:19:54 GMT
Are SYPTE that skint that they could not afford £150,000 towards the cost?!
Plus, what happens once the trial is over? Isn't the infrastructure to remain in place permanently, so could this mean that the Supertram could in theory be extended through to Rotherham as was originally planned?
That article is also a bit inaccurate, for a start Tyne & Wear Metro is the location where current rolling stock makes use of both light rail and heavy-rail lines down towards Sunderland. So this in theory would not be the first light-rail scheme to make use of heavy rail infrastructure within England.
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Post by 53brown on Mar 27, 2011 18:46:32 GMT
Although the announcement could have been better news, it still shows that the project is on track and the government are still interested in this trial. I am just interested to know how the ticketing is going to work, as surely there will be some confusion on either the Network Rail or Supertram sections of the route as to which tickets are valid, and which are not - particularly since Northern will be operating the route.
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Post by alexander on Mar 27, 2011 19:26:04 GMT
Where does it say Northern will operate it ?The vehicles will look like trams and will operate like Supertram vehicles .
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Post by 53brown on Mar 27, 2011 19:27:40 GMT
Where does it say Northern will operate it ?The vehicles will look like trams and will operate like Supertram vehicles . Its been mentioned from the outset that Northern will be operating the service with the 5 vehicles available. Try reading some of the earlier news articles regarding the scheme.
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Post by 53brown on Mar 27, 2011 19:30:13 GMT
Worth noting too, Northern are actually purchasing the five vehicles as part of the trial...
Grand total is around £25m, the last time I checked.
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