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Post by overground on Aug 28, 2024 16:25:45 GMT
Low age? It's a 10-11 year old bus that's been involved in a major RTC. A similar age circa 10 years to the E400 milk float that knocked a Supertram stanchion down on Glossop Road and got repaired a few years ago, 10 years old at the time and a major RTC. Also worth considering: if a bus knocked a supertram stanchion down there’s a likely chance that the driver was at fault. With this chesterfield E200 is that the case or is it third party? That is often one of the deciding factors whether RTCs are repaired or whether they’re repaired in house or in externally |
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Post by 63384 on Aug 28, 2024 16:26:16 GMT
Because a bicycle versus a steel-framed, 9+ ton bus will result in little to none damage. The balance of weight will mean that the impact of the collision is diverted to the bicycle and the toughened steel chassis will smash and crush the bicycle on impact. The bus was impounded by policemen I believe and returned to a Stagecoach Yorkshire depot, I believe Stonegravels is a very small depot so probably gone to Rawmarsh to be off fleet whilst any minor damage is sorted out, cracked number plates etc. Now its clear you really don't have a clue and are once again talking absolute bull**** yet again.... Error 1 - the crash at Topley Bike (if it was 36994 or another one) involved a bus and a motorcyle, not a bicyle. Error 2 - weight isn't the only factor in a collision, speed also plays a massive factor, even more so than weight! Error 3 - we are in year 2024, men aeren't the only police officers, so how are you so certain it was a "policeman" the impounded it? Error 4 - Stonegravels is considerably (possibly twice if not 3 times the size) bigger than Rawmarsh. In case it didn't reach you, only a few weeks back, there was a dreadful and highly publicised incident between Barnsley and West Yorkshire involving a car and a motorbike, and trust me, just because the bike weighed less than the car, it didn't mean the bike crushed on impacted against the toughened steel chassis of the car, and the car came off with "minimal damage". Maybe base your suggestions/theories on at least a little bit of evidence, rather than make belief. I'd just like to remind you that forum rules stipulate being respectful to other members at all times and that swearing (even if masked), should be avoided. A motorbike is a motorised bicycle. The words are just joined and shortened. It was reported online that the police impounded it, investigations have to take place following a collision, things such as the brake pipes and horn will have been checked for defectiveness. I have only seen Stonegravels from the entrance but given that it was completely un-viewable and hidden by the DVSA site, I assumed it was a small depot indeed. My suggestions and theories are that of a transport worker, having volunteered for Peak Rail for some time. I have also been to many bus scrap yards and seen the craftsman ship that goes in to making buses crashworthy. A previous poster asked for opinions on what is likely to happen with 36994. I gave my opinion and I stand by it. You might call it make belief, but I call it common sense. Implying that a bus being burnt to the ground by an arson attack is no more serious than a bus knocking in to a motorised bicycle is make belief. |
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Post by 63384 on Aug 28, 2024 16:28:19 GMT
A similar age circa 10 years to the E400 milk float that knocked a Supertram stanchion down on Glossop Road and got repaired a few years ago, 10 years old at the time and a major RTC. Also worth considering: if a bus knocked a supertram stanchion down there’s a likely chance that the driver was at fault. With this chesterfield E200 is that the case or is it third party? That is often one of the deciding factors whether RTCs are repaired or whether they’re repaired in house or in externally Sadly, the verdict of blame hasn't been reported. |
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Post by metromadman on Aug 28, 2024 16:49:32 GMT
Now its clear you really don't have a clue and are once again talking absolute bull**** yet again.... Error 1 - the crash at Topley Bike (if it was 36994 or another one) involved a bus and a motorcyle, not a bicyle. Error 2 - weight isn't the only factor in a collision, speed also plays a massive factor, even more so than weight! Error 3 - we are in year 2024, men aeren't the only police officers, so how are you so certain it was a "policeman" the impounded it? Error 4 - Stonegravels is considerably (possibly twice if not 3 times the size) bigger than Rawmarsh. In case it didn't reach you, only a few weeks back, there was a dreadful and highly publicised incident between Barnsley and West Yorkshire involving a car and a motorbike, and trust me, just because the bike weighed less than the car, it didn't mean the bike crushed on impacted against the toughened steel chassis of the car, and the car came off with "minimal damage". Maybe base your suggestions/theories on at least a little bit of evidence, rather than make belief. I'd just like to remind you that forum rules stipulate being respectful to other members at all times and that swearing (even if masked), should be avoided. A motorbike is a motorised bicycle. The words are just joined and shortened. It was reported online that the police impounded it, investigations have to take place following a collision, things such as the brake pipes and horn will have been checked for defectiveness. I have only seen Stonegravels from the entrance but given that it was completely un-viewable and hidden by the DVSA site, I assumed it was a small depot indeed. My suggestions and theories are that of a transport worker, having volunteered for Peak Rail for some time. I have also been to many bus scrap yards and seen the craftsman ship that goes in to making buses crashworthy. A previous poster asked for opinions on what is likely to happen with 36994. I gave my opinion and I stand by it. You might call it make belief, but I call it common sense. Implying that a bus being burnt to the ground by an arson attack is no more serious than a bus knocking in to a motorised bicycle is make belief. Are you actually being serious here? A motorbike and a bicycle are 2 completly seperate things and as such have different legislation governing them (a motorbike requires insurance to use the road, a bicycle does not, a motorbike requires an annual MOT, a bicycle does not). I never said it hadn't been impounded by the police, I asked why you were so confident it was a "policeman" that impounded it. Nobody asked for an opinion on it, they asked the original poster if it was "being stored until repair?", not "do you think it will be repaired?". What does volunteering at a heritage railway and visiting a scrapyard have to do with this? Was it the heritage railway centre that told you that buses had buffers? One of my duties in my first job was a First Aider, but they didn't train me to be able to diagnoise issues at Doctor would! |
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Post by littlenipper on Aug 28, 2024 16:59:36 GMT
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Post by 63384 on Aug 28, 2024 17:08:50 GMT
I'd just like to remind you that forum rules stipulate being respectful to other members at all times and that swearing (even if masked), should be avoided. A motorbike is a motorised bicycle. The words are just joined and shortened. It was reported online that the police impounded it, investigations have to take place following a collision, things such as the brake pipes and horn will have been checked for defectiveness. I have only seen Stonegravels from the entrance but given that it was completely un-viewable and hidden by the DVSA site, I assumed it was a small depot indeed. My suggestions and theories are that of a transport worker, having volunteered for Peak Rail for some time. I have also been to many bus scrap yards and seen the craftsman ship that goes in to making buses crashworthy. A previous poster asked for opinions on what is likely to happen with 36994. I gave my opinion and I stand by it. You might call it make belief, but I call it common sense. Implying that a bus being burnt to the ground by an arson attack is no more serious than a bus knocking in to a motorised bicycle is make belief. Are you actually being serious here? A motorbike and a bicycle are 2 completly seperate things and as such have different legislation governing them (a motorbike requires insurance to use the road, a bicycle does not, a motorbike requires an annual MOT, a bicycle does not). I never said it hadn't been impounded by the police, I asked why you were so confident it was a "policeman" that impounded it. Nobody asked for an opinion on it, they asked the original poster if it was "being stored until repair?", not "do you think it will be repaired?". What does volunteering at a heritage railway and visiting a scrapyard have to do with this? Was it the heritage railway centre that told you that buses had buffers? One of my duties in my first job was a First Aider, but they didn't train me to be able to diagnoise issues at Doctor would! A motorbike is a form of bicycle. It's a motorised one. If a policeman didn't impound it, how else could it have been impounded by the police? I don't think we're quite at the stage where 3rd party contractors are doing police work just yet. I will give my opinion where I decide to, as it is a forum and a question was asked. Buses have something of the concept of buffers. I am not sure on the trade name for them but the modules are there and I have posted pictures to prove this. |
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Post by metromadman on Aug 28, 2024 17:23:55 GMT
Are you actually being serious here? A motorbike and a bicycle are 2 completly seperate things and as such have different legislation governing them (a motorbike requires insurance to use the road, a bicycle does not, a motorbike requires an annual MOT, a bicycle does not). I never said it hadn't been impounded by the police, I asked why you were so confident it was a "policeman" that impounded it. Nobody asked for an opinion on it, they asked the original poster if it was "being stored until repair?", not "do you think it will be repaired?". What does volunteering at a heritage railway and visiting a scrapyard have to do with this? Was it the heritage railway centre that told you that buses had buffers? One of my duties in my first job was a First Aider, but they didn't train me to be able to diagnoise issues at Doctor would! A motorbike is a form of bicycle. It's a motorised one. If a policeman didn't impound it, how else could it have been impounded by the police? I don't think we're quite at the stage where 3rd party contractors are doing police work just yet. I will give my opinion where I decide to, as it is a forum and a question was asked. Buses have something of the concept of buffers. I am not sure on the trade name for them but the modules are there and I have posted pictures to prove this. No it isn't, but again, your arrogance will get in the way of that and you'll continue to make yourself look silly. A motorised bicycle is an E-Bike, where an electric battery will ASSIST the primary function of pedaling (and even then, it can only assist up to certain speeds). A bike with an engine is a motorbike, and is then governed a lot more than a pedal bike. They are different things, much like a motorcar is different to a Little Tikes car. A police woman (believe it or not, women also work for the police now) could have impounded it.... The question wasn't asked for you opinion though, and although I don't think anyone would have an issue with you giving your opinion, base it on something other than make belief. The nearest concept of buffers (that would be on a train) on a vehicle is a bumper. |
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Post by overground on Aug 28, 2024 17:38:53 GMT
Buses have something of the concept of buffers. I am not sure on the trade name for them but the modules are there and I have posted pictures to prove this. Why will you not take on board what people tell you? Do you not think that some of these people on here do or did this sort of work for a living and somewhat know what they’re talking about? We assured you that buses DO NOT have buffers, the link that you provided was a to a photo on Flickr of a relatively old bus with the radiator fan showing at the front but the radiator missing, I told you at the time - the thing which you thought was a “buffer” was nothing of the sort and I imagined that it might be a bracket or mounting for the radiator which was missing |
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Post by 63384 on Aug 28, 2024 17:45:14 GMT
A motorbike is a form of bicycle. It's a motorised one. If a policeman didn't impound it, how else could it have been impounded by the police? I don't think we're quite at the stage where 3rd party contractors are doing police work just yet. I will give my opinion where I decide to, as it is a forum and a question was asked. Buses have something of the concept of buffers. I am not sure on the trade name for them but the modules are there and I have posted pictures to prove this. No it isn't, but again, your arrogance will get in the way of that and you'll continue to make yourself look silly. A motorised bicycle is an E-Bike, where an electric battery will ASSIST the primary function of pedaling (and even then, it can only assist up to certain speeds). A bike with an engine is a motorbike, and is then governed a lot more than a pedal bike. They are different things, much like a motorcar is different to a Little Tikes car. A police woman (believe it or not, women also work for the police now) could have impounded it.... The question wasn't asked for you opinion though, and although I don't think anyone would have an issue with you giving your opinion, base it on something other than make belief. The nearest concept of buffers (that would be on a train) on a vehicle is a bumper. You can see the buffer here (or module that acts a buffer), the white bar at the bottom of the vehicle. There is nothing make belief about it. Newer vehicles have a higher amount of something called "book value", which means repair is preferable. Repairing a vehicle that has been burnt to the ground would need almost a complete rebuild, as the structural damage would be severe. The labour costs asosciated with it, as well as sourcing potentially obsolete parts, would in fact cost more than buying a brand new bus. |
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Post by The Captain on Aug 28, 2024 18:53:58 GMT
Never read so much crap in all my life.
Its a circus.
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Post by teapot42 on Aug 28, 2024 19:39:07 GMT
It's obviously slipped your attention that this incident was in 2013, so won't be 36994 as it was tracking until very recently. From memory it was 37185 as it didn't return to Stonegravels once released by police. |
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Post by 63384 on Aug 28, 2024 20:46:34 GMT
It's obviously slipped your attention that this incident was in 2013, so won't be 36994 as it was tracking until very recently. From memory it was 37185 as it didn't return to Stonegravels once released by police. Erm no, it was 2023. If you are going to try to make me look like an idiot, atleast get the facts right or you will only end up making yourself look like one. And yes, not returning to Stonegravels would tie in with the working theory of an unusual vehicle being off fleet at Rawmarsh. |
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Post by metromadman on Aug 28, 2024 20:53:20 GMT
It's obviously slipped your attention that this incident was in 2013, so won't be 36994 as it was tracking until very recently. From memory it was 37185 as it didn't return to Stonegravels once released by police. Erm no, it was 2023. If you are going to try to make me look like an idiot, atleast get the facts right or you will only end up making yourself look like one. And yes, not returning to Stonegravels would tie in with the working theory of an unusual vehicle being off fleet at Rawmarsh. Maybe you should take that advice as well... |
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Post by peppy89 on Aug 28, 2024 22:00:30 GMT
The vehicle in question was 37185, it is currently still in service at Rawmarsh,I also believe that 37099 went to Chesterfield for loan for a few days but I could be wrong, I am open to correction
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Post by teapot42 on Aug 29, 2024 7:51:36 GMT
It's obviously slipped your attention that this incident was in 2013, so won't be 36994 as it was tracking until very recently. From memory it was 37185 as it didn't return to Stonegravels once released by police. Erm no, it was 2023. If you are going to try to make me look like an idiot, atleast get the facts right or you will only end up making yourself look like one. And yes, not returning to Stonegravels would tie in with the working theory of an unusual vehicle being off fleet at Rawmarsh. You know, I've tried to hold off getting involved because I don't like the idea of piling on, no matter how much of a fool someone is making themselves look. But making such a meal of a typo and ignoring the actual content of the post really is demonstrating you are doing your best to troll rather than actually making a meaningful contribution to this forum.
It's getting to the point where I actually don't want to bother coming on here as rather than getting useful information and insight pretty much every thread has become dominated by one person who just wants to boost his post count and is happy to post utter nonsense and jump on the most minor thing to inflate an argument. It's not what this forum is supposed to be about. I'm sure you've got a positive contribution to make, but you'd be far more respected by the other members if you stuck to being positive.
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