Who remembers Sheafline? (Read 9,274 times)

[captainsharpe1]

Mar 14, 2011 21:22:11 GMT stagecoach said:

Mar 12, 2011 19:40:20 GMT @captainsharpe1 said:

The 206/215/221 were inherited from Sheffield & District and the 206 lasted right up until 1999 as the X6 at Greenland Road. The 221 spawned the 222 and run from Halfway using Varios, these days only parts such as the 32/X14/X15 cover the old route. The 215 did pass to Northern bus.

Was that the 221 Treeton/Swallownest service by any chance?

It was indeed.

[tmt]

Mar 12, 2011 12:02:27 GMT andyrad said:

Cheers Jimmy

another shot from 1992 at Charlotte Road

Excellent photo Andy.

[rbrt]

Not technically a SL storry but ref the Neoplan saloons.
In late 89 one was being stacked inside Charlotte Rd
in SUT days and reversed carefully upto an ex Lothian
decker, so carefully they became 'one' and then the
Neoplan pushed the decker back still til it crushed a
company car around one of the shed's roof support
pillars.

I saw the aftermath the next day, no busman it
wasn't me adnd before Josh's time too!

Driver reckoned never felt a thing til car combined with
pillar to form some real resistance. The deckers hand
brake was on too.

Sadly dont know which neo it was but can confirm
they used to go like stink on th X78.

[jimmy75]

That would have been 101 which ended up having front rebuilt with plaxton parts.

[maltaboy]

Apr 3, 2011 7:51:38 GMT @jimmy75 said:

That would have been 101 which ended up having front rebuilt with plaxton parts.

Are we sure its 101. The reason I wonder is the story seems to suggest the Neoplan was reversed into the Atlantean, so would have been the rear of the Neoplan.

I thought 101 hit was of the stanchions in depot?

[rbrt]

there was no damage well major to either bus as they kind
of buffered up then when back. it was the car, a white astra estate
springs to mind that suffered.

the reworked front of 101 certainly wasnt in my time there upto
spring 90, when much of SL tat arrived.

i'm sorry but the the nationals were generally poorer than the
SUT ones though atleast displaced the atlanteans.

there were even 2 pay rates as sut had been quite a healthy
comission based on a crap basic. and sl was a higher basic
just as well as the work that was inherited was slack semi
subsidised, certainly not the cut and thrust i'd done with
sut before on 10/51/82/120.

[jimmy75]

101 is the only one that i can think of that had a a bad smash in the depot, i cant remember the full story on how 101 ended up been in a bad way.

[The Captain]

Apr 3, 2011 22:03:57 GMT rbrt said:

there was no damage well major to either bus as they kind
of buffered up then when back. it was the car, a white astra estate
springs to mind that suffered.

the reworked front of 101 certainly wasnt in my time there upto
spring 90, when much of SL tat arrived.

i'm sorry but the the nationals were generally poorer than the
SUT ones though atleast displaced the atlanteans.

there were even 2 pay rates as sut had been quite a healthy
comission based on a crap basic. and sl was a higher basic
just as well as the work that was inherited was slack semi
subsidised, certainly not the cut and thrust i'd done with
sut before on 10/51/82/120.

The vast majority of Nationals in Sheafline livery were actually SUT ones. Those of previous SUT ownership such as the LMB-P or HNL-Ns were horrific in condition and one reason why SYT chose the Sheafline livery and name over SUTs (maintenance was another). Top and tail of it was that SUT had the very same Nationals from the very same former owners as Sheafline (Caldaire or YTC) when both companys were brought together. The Lothian Atlanteans were a disgrace and and a health hazard-how many drivers went on sick throught the heavy steering. Im not surprised about Neoplan 101 being backed into one and pushing it backwards as the handbrakes were always wanting adjustment. For the record 101 got its new front after an in depot accident were the door interlock activated with the handbrake off and hit a roof support. Cut and thrust work: hanging about Church St hoping to fill a Lothian while punters were boarding brand new B10Ms on the 51, or chasing one of many other operators buses on the 52s?. The Lavin legacy is a story waiting to be told.

[The Captain]

Apr 3, 2011 22:27:22 GMT @jimmy75 said:

101 is the only one that i can think of that had a a bad smash in the depot, i cant remember the full story on how 101 ended up been in a bad way.

Driver was building air up on 101 with entrance doors open and in gear. When air built up to the correct pressure the doors closed and the bus jumped into gear and shot forward into a roof support.

[The Captain]

How about the time when an SUT National broke down outside a drinking establishment known very well both at the bar and upstairs to myself, on East Bank Rd where the driver went in to use the phone and report his problem. On purchasing a pint thinking it may be a long wait he turned around to find the SUT engineering managers Mr JR and AK having a lunchtime session. Talk yourself out of that one.

[rbrt]

ok maybe 51's werent brill. but made some money with those
metro riders on the 97s.

recall one 5pm ish trip to herdings ran empty, was surrounded
by bendis, as a newbee though was gonna be for high jump
no punters on peak trip but could hardly force folks on. gawd
the steering on those edinburgh shed..

perhaps ref quality of sut, should have said wasnt much better
when got hands on sl stuff. mourned ths sd lynxs never arriving
either, ok maybe they never would have but could dream, at time!

[busman3]

:
hanging about Church St hoping to fill a Lothian while punters were boarding brand new B10Ms on the 51, or chasing one of many other operators buses on the 52s?. .

The good [!] captain as missed the funniest bit when the when the public relations man from SYT came up with one of the stupidest comments ever made regarding public transport in the UK.

When people are standing at a bus stop they should consider the quality of the vehicle and not just the price , remember all out buses have radios for the drivers to use in an emergency.


Funny you could see the residents of Norfolk park leaping back when they saw a lothian atlantean coming saying " I wont get that to town its not got a radio"

[The Captain]

Apr 4, 2011 6:41:57 GMT rbrt said:

ok maybe 51's werent brill. but made some money with those
metro riders on the 97s.

recall one 5pm ish trip to herdings ran empty, was surrounded
by bendis, as a newbee though was gonna be for high jump
no punters on peak trip but could hardly force folks on. gawd
the steering on those edinburgh shed..

perhaps ref quality of sut, should have said wasnt much better
when got hands on sl stuff. mourned ths sd lynxs never arriving
either, ok maybe they never would have but could dream, at time!

The Metroriders could get quite busy on 110s with the right drivers. SUT and Sheafline improved greatly with the Sheffield & District staff and vehicles incorporated. If the Lynxs had stayed im pretty sure SYT would have got shut very quickly.

[rbrt]

tbf when i was on 51s in late summer of 89 syt were running
atlanteans as well. though as said supported by plenty of
goosing bendis eventually.

suspect it was a later batch of b10s that saw the 51s converted.
think 52s had g...nwa.

perhaps when 51s went b10 it was the tinted glass, radio for
punters! and shark fin types on h or j reg maybe?

i was only part time but recall doing sut work to penistone
and beyond, barnsley on 165s withe trips to shafton? inwhilst
out there.

by time was doing SL stuff in early 90 was doing routes to hemsworth, shirecliffe, 433s?and woodhouse circles 23/32s.

guess by then andrew gunning was history. the control staff
were a good bunch, worked with some of them later as drivers
at terriers.

[andyrad]

Apr 3, 2011 23:20:29 GMT The Captain said:

Apr 3, 2011 22:27:22 GMT @jimmy75 said:

101 is the only one that i can think of that had a a bad smash in the depot, i cant remember the full story on how 101 ended up been in a bad way.

Driver was building air up on 101 with entrance doors open and in gear. When air built up to the correct pressure the doors closed and the bus jumped into gear and shot forward into a roof support.

a short clip of 101 entering Norfork park in 1992, (no idea who the lad is at the front!) ;D