October Service Changes (Read 18,786 times)

[Luke]

From 01st & 02nd October 2022

Stagecoach Yorkshire:

Cancellations:

220 - Denaby Main to Cortonwood
222 - Cortonwood to Barnsley
X10 - Barnsley to Leeds
SL1 - Middlewood Park and Ride
75 - Clowne to Clowne
73 - Clowne to Crystal Peaks

Alterations:

120 - Halfway to Fulwood - Timetable Change
25 - Woodhouse to Broadway - Timetable Change
83/83A - Ecclesfield to Fulwood - Timetable Change
52 - Woodhouse to Hillsborough - Timetable Change
57A - Sheffield to Stocksbridge - Route and Timetable Change

[simonk82701]

Some of these really surprise my as they are employment services. I wonder if the SL1 will be replaced by the 57 or not!

[littlenipper]

Aug 25, 2022 22:22:24 GMT simonk82701 said:

Some of these really surprise my as they are employment services. I wonder if the SL1 will be replaced by the 57 or not!

57a to replace tramlink.

[littlenipper]

Hulleys SERVICE CHANGES FROM SUNDAY 2 OCTOBER 2022:



256/257/258 - All buses will run as Service 257, and on Monday to Saturday buses will run hourly from Sheffield to Bakewell. On Sundays buses will run between Sheffield and Bamford Station, with some journeys additionally serving Fairholmes Visitor Centre.

271/272 - Changes to times at morning and afternoon peak to improve reliability. The 1120 from Sheffield to Castleton and 1220 from Castleton to Sheffield will be replaced by journeys at 1050 & 1150 from Sheffield to Castleton and 1150 & 1250 from Castleton to Sheffield.

M17 - This service will no longer be operated by Hulleys.

[adyjns]

who is going to be taking over the M17/chestetfield 78 service as i know they interwork i think

[adyjns]

and also are stagecoach yorkshire making any service changes i known this covers barnsley sheffield and chesterfield

[littlenipper]

Sept 11, 2022 14:20:34 GMT adyjns said:

who is going to be taking over the M17/chestetfield 78 service as i know they interwork i think

Rumour Stagecoach will be running M17 again.also hulleys no longer running 78.

[adyjns]

will stagecoach be running the 78 or will it be part of another chesterfield bus route

[littlenipper]

Sept 11, 2022 16:27:41 GMT adyjns said:

will stagecoach be running the 78 or will it be part of another chesterfield bus route

Not sure on that will have to wait till info is available unless anyone else on here knows more.

[mojoe44]

Sept 11, 2022 16:27:41 GMT adyjns said:

will stagecoach be running the 78 or will it be part of another chesterfield bus route

Stagecoach not doing it. Stagecoach have retained all Derbyshire tenders at both Chesterfield and Holbrook (other than Sunday 84s which have been replaced by hulleys 170) and have gained 15/16 in dronfield from TM.

[simonk82701]

According to the Traffic Commissioner, service 73/74 Cristal Peak’s is cancelled. Around 2 weeks to go and still no new timetables. The passenger is let down by all parties and the last to know yet again!

[mojoe44]

Sept 12, 2022 11:29:51 GMT simonk82701 said:

According to the Traffic Commissioner, service 73/74 Cristal Peak’s is cancelled. Around 2 weeks to go and still no new timetables. The passenger is let down by all parties and the last to know yet again!

It's because the council were too slow announcing the tender results so Stagecoach had to register services with the traffic commissioner as if they were cancelled. Same with South Yorkshire, my understanding is the cancelled services above may not actually be cancelled. The late announcement on government funding has also confused things, but I agree it would be nice to know about timetables etc. a bit further in advance.

[simonk82701]

Sept 12, 2022 15:27:40 GMT mojoe44 said:

Sept 12, 2022 11:29:51 GMT simonk82701 said:

According to the Traffic Commissioner, service 73/74 Cristal Peak’s is cancelled. Around 2 weeks to go and still no new timetables. The passenger is let down by all parties and the last to know yet again!

It's because the council were too slow announcing the tender results so Stagecoach had to register services with the traffic commissioner as if they were cancelled. Same with South Yorkshire, my understanding is the cancelled services above may not actually be cancelled. The late announcement on government funding has also confused things, but I agree it would be nice to know about timetables etc. a bit further in advance.

So, is the 73-4 actually staying as far as your aware then? I also wondered if the 73 Sheffield to Rotherham Sunday/Evening service was going to be reinstated because that is also down or a timetable change. The whole thing is a shambles as usual. The rules need to be changed in my view so that passengers get a minimum of 28 days' notice of any timetable change. There is no point in a traffic commissioner, they have no teeth. The whole idea of 45 days' notice is to allow for alterative arrangements to be made. The poor passenger is lucky to get ten days in most cases. the rules should be 28 days' notice to the public with a new timetable or no change can be made. Unless it's urgent such as roadworks or a company has gone insolvent say. Too many people involved in the process.   

[littlenipper]

Sept 12, 2022 17:22:14 GMT simonk82701 said:

Sept 12, 2022 15:27:40 GMT mojoe44 said:

It's because the council were too slow announcing the tender results so Stagecoach had to register services with the traffic commissioner as if they were cancelled. Same with South Yorkshire, my understanding is the cancelled services above may not actually be cancelled. The late announcement on government funding has also confused things, but I agree it would be nice to know about timetables etc. a bit further in advance.

So, is the 73-4 actually staying as far as your aware then? I also wondered if the 73 Sheffield to Rotherham Sunday/Evening service was going to be reinstated because that is also down or a timetable change. The whole thing is a shambles as usual. The rules need to be changed in my view so that passengers get a minimum of 28 days' notice of any timetable change. There is no point in a traffic commissioner, they have no teeth. The whole idea of 45 days' notice is to allow for alterative arrangements to be made. The poor passenger is lucky to get ten days in most cases. the rules should be 28 days' notice to the public with a new timetable or no change can be made. Unless it's urgent such as roadworks or a company has gone insolvent say. Too many people involved in the process.   

73/74 cancelled due to end of DDC tender so a guessing game now if anyone takes it on.

[mojoe44]

Sept 12, 2022 17:22:14 GMT simonk82701 said:

Sept 12, 2022 15:27:40 GMT mojoe44 said:

It's because the council were too slow announcing the tender results so Stagecoach had to register services with the traffic commissioner as if they were cancelled. Same with South Yorkshire, my understanding is the cancelled services above may not actually be cancelled. The late announcement on government funding has also confused things, but I agree it would be nice to know about timetables etc. a bit further in advance.

So, is the 73-4 actually staying as far as your aware then? I also wondered if the 73 Sheffield to Rotherham Sunday/Evening service was going to be reinstated because that is also down or a timetable change. The whole thing is a shambles as usual. The rules need to be changed in my view so that passengers get a minimum of 28 days' notice of any timetable change. There is no point in a traffic commissioner, they have no teeth. The whole idea of 45 days' notice is to allow for alterative arrangements to be made. The poor passenger is lucky to get ten days in most cases. the rules should be 28 days' notice to the public with a new timetable or no change can be made. Unless it's urgent such as roadworks or a company has gone insolvent say. Too many people involved in the process.   

The Stagecoach commercial director posted the following to the staff a week or so back: "We have retained all of our existing tendered work (including the 65 and our Matlock routes), with the exception of the service 84 Sunday journeys. Holbrook also retain the 73/74/75 and 130 school bus." Sounds like there are no changes to 73/74/75 but I don't know any more details than that.