October Service Changes (Read 18,780 times)

[TC60054]

Sept 17, 2022 21:52:12 GMT tomtom11928 said:

Sept 12, 2022 19:15:55 GMT mojoe44 said:

Stagecoach changes in South Yorkshire from the 2nd of October as follows:

Sheffield

1a – City – Herdings – award of early morning tendered trips from First. Ecclesfield depot will run this service.
6 – Rerouted to serve Greystones Road and Bents Green, replacing First service 83. Timetable revised.
25 – Revised timetable with all journeys terminate at Bradway (Mother Redcap). Longford Road will no longer be served. Award of tendered evening trips from First. Stagecoach will operate all journeys on this service.
30 – Crystal Peaks – City - Hallamshire Hospital: gain of early morning tendered trips from TM Travel (one on Mondays to Fridays, four on Saturdays). Holbrook depot will run this service.
44 – Rerouted via Prospect Road instead of Dronfield bypass. Sheepbridge Industrial Estate will still be served at peak times.
50/50a - Chesterfield to Sheffield; Times changed. Buses will serve all stops between Birley and Sheffield.
50 – rerouted to use West Street instead of Ravencar Road in Eckington and between Eckington and Mosborough to use Rotherham Road/Station Road instead of Windmill Greenway/High Street.
50a – rerouted to use Stone Lane instead of Highland Road in New Whittington, West Street instead of Ravencar Road in Eckington and between Eckington and Mosborough to use Rotherham Road/Station Road instead of Sheffield Road/High Street.
52 – Monday to Saturday evening timetable revised.
57 – A revised timetable and route will be introduced, with buses operating every half hour Monday to Saturday daytimes and hourly in the evenings and on Sundays. Stagecoach will operate all journeys on this service. The route towards Stocksbridge will be as follows: as current 57 as far as Dykes Hall Road, then Langsett Avenue, A6102 Middlewood Road, Carr Road, Wood Royd Road, Armitage Road, Lee Avenue, Bocking Hill, Nanny Hill, Manchester Road, Hole House Lane, Shay House Lane, Pot House Lane, Cedar Road, Coal Pit Lane, Brackenmoor Lane, Victoria Road, Hole House Lane, Manchester Road, then Park Drive, Sitwell Avenue, or Smithy Moor Lane depending on terminus. Towards Sheffield - Unsliven Road or Moorland Drive, Oaks Avenue, Rydal Avenue, Park Drive then Manchester Road, Hole House Lane, Shay House Lane, Pot House Lane, Cedar Road, Coal Pit Lane, Brackenmoor Lane, Victoria Road, Hole House Lane, Manchester Road, Nanny Hill, Bocking Hill, Lee Avenue, Armitage Road, Wood Royd Road, Carr Road, A6102 Middlewood Road, Langsett Avenue, Dykes Hall Road and resume current 57 route. Evening and Sunday buses will serve both the Leisure Centre and Unsliven Bridge. During Monday to Saturday daytimes they will alternate to match the current hourly provision to each.
72/72a – Route formalised to serve Tankersley Lane and Olympus Way with minor timing changes.
80/80a - Revised timetable on Monday to Friday afternoons.
83a – Service revised to operate every 30 minutes. First service 83 will no longer run. Sunday 83 will operate as 83a.
86 – Chapeltown - City – award of early morning and evening tendered trips from First. Stagecoach will operate all journeys on this service.
120 – Revised timetable in the evenings and on Sundays.
137 – Rotherham – Sheffield via Kimberworth, Wincobank, Meadowhall and Grimesthorpe: gain of Monday to Saturday daytime tendered service from First. Rawmarsh depot will run this service.
SL1/SL1a – Service withdrawn (see service 57 for replacement).

Barnsley, Doncaster, Rotherham and Dearne Valley

21 – Rotherham – Harthill via Whiston, Swallownest, Aston and Wales: gain of Monday to Saturday daytime tendered service from First. Rawmarsh depot will run this service.
72/72a - Route formalised to serve Tankersley Lane and Olympus Way with minor timing changes.
135 – Rotherham – Chapeltown via Kimberworth: gain of Monday to Saturday daytime tendered service from First. Rawmarsh depot will run this service.
137 – Rotherham – Sheffield via Kimberworth, Wincobank, Meadowhall and Grimesthorpe: gain of Monday to Saturday daytime tendered service from First. Rawmarsh depot will run this service.
220 – Service withdrawn.
222 – Service withdrawn (see 223 for a part replacement).
223 – Newhill – Wath – Wombwell – Aldham House: gain of new Monday to Saturday daytime tendered service, running hourly. Provides a partial replacement for First services 22a/22c (which are withdrawn) in Newhill and for service 222 at Aldham House. Route is from Newhill via Quarry Hill Road, Sandygate, Burman Road, Doncaster Road, Biscay Way, Montgomery Road, Church Street, West Street, Biscay Way, Station Road, Manvers Way, Dearne Valley Parkway, Wath Road, Park Street, High Street, Barnsley Road, Pearson Crescent, Aldham House Lane, Wilson Street, Barnsley Road, High Street, Park Street, Wath Road, Dearne Valley Parkway, Manvers Way, Station Road, Biscay Way, Montgomery Road, Church Street, West Street, Biscay Way, Doncaster Road, Burman Road, Festival Road and Cemetery Road to Quarry Hill Road. Rawmarsh depot will run this service.
X10 – The last two remaining journeys are withdrawn.

What is the 21 in Rotherham? The last time I saw a 21 in Rotherham was a good 10 years ago at least.

It looks to be a merge of the 26/27/29 routes, probably similar to what the 29a is currently.

[simonk82701]

You may be right. I have not heard of any changes coming to First service 27. It will also be interesting to see if the 26 through Whiston village remains. Hopefully midday tomorrow, we will start to find out what the situation really is. I wonder what the timetable changes to the x1 and x10 will be?

[littlenipper]

Following TM services are showing as cancelled
20 24a 29 29a 55 X55.

[simonk82701]

Sept 19, 2022 16:43:11 GMT littlenipper said:

Following TM services are showing as cancelled
20 24a 29 29a 55 X55.

So, the x54 Sunday and evening service 29A gone, unless stagecoach is running it as a 21 on a Sunday. I am guessing the 30/30A will serve Plumbly. I really hope people are not left stranded at such short notice. Any workers who relied on the 24A, dear oh dear! There may be trouble with the short notice. People who work late evenings etc. I wonder if the 20 will be replaced with a bookable telephone service? Or whether part of Rotherham will be isolated all together? 

[TC60054]

Sept 19, 2022 16:23:15 GMT simonk82701 said:

You may be right. I have not heard of any changes coming to First service 27. It will also be interesting to see if the 26 through Whiston village remains. Hopefully midday tomorrow, we will start to find out what the situation really is. I wonder what the timetable changes to the x1 and x10 will be?

I understand the 26, 27 and 29 are all withdrawn. There's a lot of changes to come from First.

[simonk82701]

Sept 19, 2022 17:13:04 GMT TC60054 said:

Sept 19, 2022 16:23:15 GMT simonk82701 said:

You may be right. I have not heard of any changes coming to First service 27. It will also be interesting to see if the 26 through Whiston village remains. Hopefully midday tomorrow, we will start to find out what the situation really is. I wonder what the timetable changes to the x1 and x10 will be?

I understand the 26, 27 and 29 are all withdrawn. There's a lot of changes to come from First.

Would it be an exaggeration to say that Stagecoach Yorkshire, could become bigger than First, in terms of contract work? Stagecoach could be about to become much bigger in Rotherham at least.  

[jakerton43]

The stagecoach 21 is basically 29A with Wesley av in Aston and Todwick being served. Just mon to sat daytime.

[rothlad]

21 is the same route as the current 29A, with Stagecoach Yorkshire running the Mon-Sat daytime service and TM Travel running the evening and Sunday service.

26/27/29 all withdrawn, as is the 10. This leaves the Rotherham - Rotherham Hospital corridor almost fully with Stagecoach (TM still operating the few trips on the 20). Revised 19/19A/20 and 21 will provide 3 buses per hour, on what is currently 6 buses per hour (was 8 until last month with the short 19s withdrawn due to staffing issues). TRC morning and afternoon runs will be fun!

[rothlad]

Sept 14, 2022 13:59:43 GMT mojoe44 said:

Early morning 1a now stays with first who are going to operate it commercially.

The 11 is making a return too. The old 47/48 routes are returning, with the 1A down Blackstock from Raeburn Road and the 11 down Leighton Road from Raeburn Road.

[jakerton43]

Sept 19, 2022 19:21:20 GMT rothlad said:

21 is the same route as the current 29A, with Stagecoach Yorkshire running the Mon-Sat daytime service and TM Travel running the evening and Sunday service.

26/27/29 all withdrawn, as is the 10. This leaves the Rotherham - Rotherham Hospital corridor almost fully with Stagecoach (TM still operating the few trips on the 20). Revised 19/19A/20 and 21 will provide 3 buses per hour, on what is currently 6 buses per hour (was 8 until last month with the short 19s withdrawn due to staffing issues). TRC morning and afternoon runs will be fun!

I was just thinking the same!

[simonk82701]

Sept 19, 2022 19:21:20 GMT rothlad said:

21 is the same route as the current 29A, with Stagecoach Yorkshire running the Mon-Sat daytime service and TM Travel running the evening and Sunday service.

26/27/29 all withdrawn, as is the 10. This leaves the Rotherham - Rotherham Hospital corridor almost fully with Stagecoach (TM still operating the few trips on the 20). Revised 19/19A/20 and 21 will provide 3 buses per hour, on what is currently 6 buses per hour (was 8 until last month with the short 19s withdrawn due to staffing issues). TRC morning and afternoon runs will be fun!

Good God, and I am assuming that the only service on a Sunday/BH will be the 19A, unless someone knows otherwise. The 21 will not operate on a Sunday or at night, I am assuming, leaving large parts of south Rotherham cut off. Does anyone know of a replacement for the 10 between Maltby and Braithwell? Have family there! Help! If all this comes out officially people are going to be so concerned and I think very cross.  

[simonk82701]

Sorry miss read this, If TM and taking on the 21 at night and Sundays, not as bad as I thought. Doncaster has however lost its link with Rotherham Hospital then? I tell you what Stagecoach East Midlands has better buck their ideas up. If hospital services have more than halved, cutting off any 19/19A at all due to driver shortages is a bad Idea. Just out of interest does anyone know about the smaller Rotherham routes like the 115 and 116 or the 138-142. Have First chucked them in or are they going to continue to run them? seems like First are a bit sick of Rotherham. No money there I guess.   

[duncan]

Sept 19, 2022 19:47:09 GMT simonk82701 said:

Sorry miss read this, If TM and taking on the 21 at night and Sundays, not as bad as I thought. Doncaster has however lost its link with Rotherham Hospital then? I tell you what Stagecoach East Midlands has better buck their ideas up. If hospital services have more than halved, cutting off any 19/19A at all due to driver shortages is a bad Idea. Just out of interest does anyone know about the smaller Rotherham routes like the 115 and 116 or the 138-142. Have First chucked them in or are they going to continue to run them? seems like First are a bit sick of Rotherham. No money there I guess.   

Plenty money to be made in Rotherham. If they actually ran buses there they would know. First area to lose buses = Rotherham. Breakdowns covered from Sheffield or Doncaster. Maltbys run from Sheffield with the infamous X1 (the Bermuda triangle of bus operation), Total lack of imagination with service provision. Is it any wonder the services are struggling?

[duncan]

Sept 19, 2022 16:23:15 GMT simonk82701 said:

I wonder what the timetable changes to the x1 and x10 will be?

I will put money on a reduction using the excuse that they are lightly loaded. Maybe if more than 50% actually ran the full scheduled route...............

[simonk82701]

Sept 20, 2022 6:25:24 GMT duncan said:

Sept 19, 2022 19:47:09 GMT simonk82701 said:

Sorry miss read this, If TM and taking on the 21 at night and Sundays, not as bad as I thought. Doncaster has however lost its link with Rotherham Hospital then? I tell you what Stagecoach East Midlands has better buck their ideas up. If hospital services have more than halved, cutting off any 19/19A at all due to driver shortages is a bad Idea. Just out of interest does anyone know about the smaller Rotherham routes like the 115 and 116 or the 138-142. Have First chucked them in or are they going to continue to run them? seems like First are a bit sick of Rotherham. No money there I guess.   

Plenty money to be made in Rotherham. If they actually ran buses there they would know. First area to lose buses = Rotherham. Breakdowns covered from Sheffield or Doncaster. Maltbys run from Sheffield with the infamous X1 (the Bermuda triangle of bus operation), Total lack of imagination with service provision. Is it any wonder the services are struggling?

Yes, I agree.